Wonder Woman

Post by **GORDON** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:11 am

Absolutely she should.

Post by **Leisher** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:38 pm

Biggest opening ever for a female director.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:58 pm

So it took a chick character created by a dude with a BDSM fetish to beat out Twilight fan fic porn.

Post by **thibodeaux** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:22 pm

You know, it's true that the Nazis did some really bad stuff. But to make the PRE-Nazi Germans out to be The Worst Thing Evar is just going a little too far. IMHO.

Post by **thibodeaux** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:22 pm

Also, this movie was fucking stupid, and only the fact that she is Very Pretty made it even watchable.

Post by **GORDON** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:14 pm

thibodeaux wrote: Also, this movie was fucking stupid, and only the fact that she is Very Pretty made it even watchable.

YOU'RE very pretty.

No wait, I did that wrong.

YOU'RE fucking stupid.

But also pretty.

I don't know what I'm doing.

Post by **TheCatt** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:21 pm

thibodeaux wrote: You know, it's true that the Nazis did some really bad stuff. But to make the PRE-Nazi Germans out to be The Worst Thing Evar is just going a little too far. IMHO.

I haven't seen it, so I cannot comment on what you're saying, but I mean, almost 40 million people died due to that war, right?

Post by **Vince** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:33 pm

TheCatt wrote:
thibodeaux wrote: You know, it's true that the Nazis did some really bad stuff. But to make the PRE-Nazi Germans out to be The Worst Thing Evar is just going a little too far. IMHO.
I haven't seen it, so I cannot comment on what you're saying, but I mean, almost 40 million people died due to that war, right?

I remember in school being taught that it had the highest mortality rate among the soldiers, if I recall. The use of chemical weapons and also dynamite which despite being used in many westerns really wasn't around until later.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:44 pm

It was brutal because of tech and lots of dumb-ass European military thought.

Post by **thibodeaux** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:37 pm

TheCatt wrote:
thibodeaux wrote: You know, it's true that the Nazis did some really bad stuff. But to make the PRE-Nazi Germans out to be The Worst Thing Evar is just going a little too far. IMHO.
I haven't seen it, so I cannot comment on what you're saying, but I mean, almost 40 million people died due to that war, right?

Yes but the movie wasn't about how awful WWI was. It was about how awful the Germans, and in particular this one German general, was.

Post by **TheCatt** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:27 pm

thibodeaux wrote:
TheCatt wrote:
thibodeaux wrote: You know, it's true that the Nazis did some really bad stuff. But to make the PRE-Nazi Germans out to be The Worst Thing Evar is just going a little too far. IMHO.
I haven't seen it, so I cannot comment on what you're saying, but I mean, almost 40 million people died due to that war, right?
Yes but the movie wasn't about how awful WWI was. It was about how awful the Germans, and in particular this one German general, was.

Well, it is a movie.....

Post by **TheCatt** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:29 pm

Minor spoiler attached: but that guy was somewhat based on reality, but with movie exaggerations: http://www.vulture.com/2017/06/wonder-w ... erson.html

Post by **Vince** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:16 am

TheCatt wrote:
thibodeaux wrote:
TheCatt wrote:
I haven't seen it, so I cannot comment on what you're saying, but I mean, almost 40 million people died due to that war, right?
Yes but the movie wasn't about how awful WWI was. It was about how awful the Germans, and in particular this one German general, was.
Well, it is a movie.....

Exactly. You have to have an actual antagonist for these things. See Sphere. Samuel Jackson said about that movie something along the lines of, the problem was we made a monster movie without a monster.

Post by **Leisher** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:00 am

I remember a quote from a review of Lethal Weapon 4 that ripped the movie. The writer said something along the lines of: "The protagonist is nothing without a strong antagonist."

I agree. Villains make a story.

Post by **Leisher** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:34 am

Saw it.

I wouldn't say this movie sucked or was bad, but it is definitely not as good as I was hearing.

You could see the re-writes and re-shoots throughout. The film was filled with really shallow characters who were never fleshed out. The dialogue was also pretty weak, especially those scenes between Chris Pine and Gal Gadot. And WOW, there is NO chemistry between those two. Gal Gadot is so beautiful and Chris Pine is so clearly not attracted to her that I honestly started to wonder if he's gay (not that there's anything wrong with that). I honestly found him to be unlikable. One of the reasons he exceeds as Kirk is because his natural personality comes off as cocky and charming, but this role completely limited that. I think he was poorly cast. Anyway, their scenes were brutal to sit through because of that lack of chemistry and bad dialogue. I compare those scenes to sitting through a long joke setup and then the punchline never being delivered or being delivered badly.

The villains were not impressive, particularly the final baddie.

Set pieces and direction were top notch. The movie was beautiful. I just think the writing wasn't equally as solid.

I was entertained, but I actively was thinking to myself "When does this get really good?"

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:39 pm

Some of you are way too old and bitter and jaded.

https://twitter.com/PattyJenks/status/8 ... 65/photo/1

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:41 pm

I was born bitter, old, and jaded. And ornery.

Post by **TheCatt** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:29 am

Why are kids that young watching PG-13 movies?

Why did parents agree to revamp a birthday party 3 days before it was being thrown?

Post by **Leisher** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:10 pm

GORDON wrote: Some of you are way too old and bitter and jaded.

https://twitter.com/PattyJenks/status/8 ... 65/photo/1

This just in, kids can be swayed and inspired by movies, even ones that aren't great or good. Shocking I know...

Little kids being inspired by a movie doesn't mean shit about the film's quality. People were inspired by the original Batman, the original Superman films, Spider-Man 3, Pacific Rim, etc.

That being said, it's why I didn't show any hint of being disappointed walking out of the theater. I didn't want to have my disappointment affect my kids' enthusiasm for the movie.

Post by **GORDON** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:36 pm

Don't tell me, tell director Patty Jenkins whose tweet that is. Tell her her movie sucked.