The Six Californias Plan

Stuff we should click on.  Be sure to state Not Work Safe, if applicable.  KTHX.
Post Reply
Leisher
Site Admin
Posts: 71825
Joined: Thu May 20, 2004 9:17 pm
Contact:

Post by Leisher »

“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
TPRJones
Posts: 13418
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 2:05 pm
Location: Houston
Contact:

Post by TPRJones »

It would be the smartest thing they could do. So of course they won't.
"ATTENTION: Customers browsing porn must hold magazines with both hands at all times!"
TheCatt
Site Admin
Posts: 58754
Joined: Thu May 20, 2004 11:15 pm
Location: Cary, NC

Post by TheCatt »

I wonder if this will happen. I'm guessing no. Do states outside of California get a vote? IIRC, the federal government would have to approve, right?
It's not me, it's someone else.
TPRJones
Posts: 13418
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 2:05 pm
Location: Houston
Contact:

Post by TPRJones »

Article IV:
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

So basically once the state legislature of Cali passes it then it goes on to Congress to make it so. Cali law allows for prop votes to end-run the state legislature but I don't think that will apply here since it's really US law that is being dealt with instead of Cali law.

The only exception I know of to the above is Texas, which can split up into as many as five states without getting the approval of Congress, because it was pre-approved at the time of the state's admission to the union.
"ATTENTION: Customers browsing porn must hold magazines with both hands at all times!"
Leisher
Site Admin
Posts: 71825
Joined: Thu May 20, 2004 9:17 pm
Contact:

Post by Leisher »

Yes, the government would have to approve the new states.

According to the article, there are other "break California into new states" plans throughout the state, so it's got an outside chance. I could see local leaders getting behind it because they would be able to grab more power.

I would find it interesting to sit back and watch how the different states adapt without influence from the others.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
User avatar
Troy
Posts: 7573
Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:00 am

Post by Troy »

The Northern state would quickly pass marijuana legislation and become an agricultural power.
GORDON
Site Admin
Posts: 56735
Joined: Sun Jun 06, 2004 10:43 pm
Location: DTManistan
Contact:

Post by GORDON »

It would be nice to break up their... what... 50 electoral college votes?
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Malcolm
Posts: 32040
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 1:04 pm
Location: Minneapolis

Post by Malcolm »

GORDON wrote:It would be nice to break up their... what... 50 electoral college votes?
I'm virtually sure that's what'll kill this initiative.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
TPRJones
Posts: 13418
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 2:05 pm
Location: Houston
Contact:

Post by TPRJones »

It would mean more votes per citizen, as Cali is currently short on votes overall. And more Senators, of course.

If it comes down to electoral votes, the Republicans would be in favor of splitting those up since Cali has been overall blue for some time. As long as the US Congress has a Repub majority when this comes through then there's a chance it might happen.
"ATTENTION: Customers browsing porn must hold magazines with both hands at all times!"
Post Reply