Crytek on the PC/Console war

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I'm at a bit of a loss why Sony and MS are shoving a next gen console out. Were I either, I'd take aim at the cable companies and start pushing media PCs over set top boxes.
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Malcolm wrote:I'm at a bit of a loss why Sony and MS are shoving a next gen console out. Were I either, I'd take aim at the cable companies and start pushing media PCs over set top boxes.
I am looking forward to getting a couple new, cheap PS3s when the PS4 comes out.

They make great hassle-free media centers.
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I get why they're doing it. Most console owners are technological morons.

Plugging a console into a TV, slapping a DVD into the drive, and hitting power is a LOT less advanced than what PC gamers have to go through.

If Macs are PCs for dummies, then consoles are PCs for retards.
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You'll find that most new Blu-Ray players are good media servers as well. They do Netflix, stream from a home PC, Hulu, etc. And they are far cheaper than a PS3, even after the PS4. And I'm betting PS3s will be hard to find post PS4 just like the PS2 is now.
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PS2 lived a long time into the PS3 world.
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Cakedaddy wrote:You'll find that most new Blu-Ray players are good media servers as well. They do Netflix, stream from a home PC, Hulu, etc. And they are far cheaper than a PS3, even after the PS4. And I'm betting PS3s will be hard to find post PS4 just like the PS2 is now.
Yes, I have a Sony BD player that has way more streaming options, and can even access media from my already-existing "PS3 Media Server" software running on my server.... but it is all SLOW AS HELL compared to the PS3. The PS3 launches apps a hell of a lot faster than my BD player, and I like that using a PS3 controller in the dark, just knowing where all the buttons are, is really easy compared to a BD player remote where you are tilting the thing trying to see the reflection of the buttons in the light of the TV screen.

Time to starting a movie on Netflix on my PS3, from power-down: about 40 seconds.

Time on my BD player: About 2 minutes. Longer bootup, longer time to run the Netflix App, and longer time doing "Signal strength tests" to see what kind of quality they will show me.

Also, the Netflix App on the PS3 is a lot cleaner than on my Sony BD player. Hard to describe, it is just laid out differently.
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TheCatt wrote:PS2 lived a long time into the PS3 world.
PS2 was still outselling the PS3 18 months after the PS3 launch, iirc. It was the cost of the PS3 ($500+?) that killed early sales.
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So they're no longer selling retarded gaming PCs, they're selling retarded media PCs?
Time to starting a movie on Netflix on my PS3, from power-down: about 40 seconds.

How much would it cost to build a PC to do just what your PS3 does, and how fast could it do it?




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Malcolm wrote:So they're no longer selling retarded gaming PCs, they're selling retarded media PCs?
Time to starting a movie on Netflix on my PS3, from power-down: about 40 seconds.
How much would it cost to build a PC to do just what your PS3 does, and how fast could it do it?
Have thought a lot about a HTPC....

1. I don't want the HDMI/Blu Ray DRM headaches that are built in to the new graphics cards, and

2. I don't feel like looking into a remote control for a compute.

Just having the gigabit LAN and media storage on the server with a PS3 to access it is good enough for me.
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I spent $35 on my Raspberry Pi, and with RaspBMC on it the performance is a bit worse that of the PS3 as described above, but not too much so.

As to a remote for the computer, check out flirc. It's a fully teachable USB IR remote, just train it with your universal remote and you are good to go. Works great with my Logitech Harmony. Just $22.95.

Only thing I've found I don't like about this setup is if I leave it on and the NAS spins down the disks due to activity (like when I go off to work) often it will be frozen with a "share no longer accessible" notice on the screen and I'll have to power cycle to get it back. Need to do something about that eventually.




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GORDON wrote:
Malcolm wrote:So they're no longer selling retarded gaming PCs, they're selling retarded media PCs?
Time to starting a movie on Netflix on my PS3, from power-down: about 40 seconds.
How much would it cost to build a PC to do just what your PS3 does, and how fast could it do it?
Have thought a lot about a HTPC....

1. I don't want the HDMI/Blu Ray DRM headaches that are built in to the new graphics cards, and

2. I don't feel like looking into a remote control for a compute.

Just having the gigabit LAN and media storage on the server with a PS3 to access it is good enough for me.
If you're interested in this I can send you a link for the apps, but you can get many different apps for your Android phone/tablet that will allow you to use your phone/tablet as a remote.

I did this for a while when I was using my desktop PC as a DVD player to run movies off my harddrive, or to run Netflix in a web browser. They're very powerful so you'd be surprised at all the features they'll have, but those ones seem to apply the most to what you're trying to do. VERY easy to use and simple to setup.
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Plus there's the added benefit that with the right router settings you can then control your TV from outside your local network. So you can mess with your wife from the office. Bonus!
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