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Kark Urban plays a future cop with a robot buddy.

Actually looks interesting.

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Dr. McCoy plays a Martin Riggs type (doesn't give a fuck and has a bad history) in the future where crime has forced the police to use androids as muscle.

McCoy doesn't like them very much, and ends up with an older model as a partner. The older model has software that made them more human than the newer models. They also had a habit of going nuts due to their emotions.

There's going to be an overall storyline where McCoy has a personal vendetta against the clearly named "The Syndicate". The first episode sets that up. I'm 3 or 4 episodes in, and they've already hit android sex bots.

I'm currently watching an episode that's a huge tribute to Die Hard that included a very blatant nod to Star Wars.

The show is well cast. Nice to see actors with more talent like Urban hitting the smaller screen.

I'm guessing the budget is pretty high. Check it out, and if you like it be sure to let folks know. Shows with high budgets need high ratings.
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I'm currently watching an episode that's a huge tribute to Die Hard that included a very blatant nod to Star Wars.

That's the last one I've watched myself (I'm a bit behind). The series to date has been better than I had hoped. Very enjoyable and I second this endorsement.
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Still awesome.

Did I mention they use bitcoins as currency in this future?
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Just finished season 1 (13 episodes).

Great show, but slow pacing for the overall story. That's probably because they had no clue if they'd be renewed or not. The final episode of season 1 sort of ends the show on an up note, and I'm sure that was intentional.

Unfortunately, I'm betting this show sees an early end due to high production costs.

It's a shame too because the premise is solid, and the cast is unbelievably good.

So if you didn't watch it, congratulations, you just made the next Firefly, Sarah Conner Chronicles, Space: Above and Beyond, etc.

And fuck all these jackasses who watch CSI: Springfield and Law and Order: Traffic Court. Fucking jackasses are destroying TV.

Here's hoping SyFy sees an opportunity...




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Love the banter between the two main characters, especially when in the car. Hope they get renewed.

Space: Above and Beyond. LOVED that show. Saw it in reruns on Sci-fi a few years ago and had to admit that it was really just one of the best for its day by default. The dialog and acting wasn't really that good at all.
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Cancelled.

Yet another great show cancelled.

People couldn't be bothered to stop watching dreck like Dancing with the Stars or any of the 400 versions of Law & Order.
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Are these ratings still calculated using the archaic Nielsen system? May as well break out the lunar calendars.
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Are these ratings still calculated using the archaic Nielsen system?

Yes. And while they do count things that are DVR'd now, it's my understanding that if you don't watch it within three hours then it doesn't count. And everyone I know under the age of 60 DVRs their TV and with few exceptions almost never watches it within three hours of recording it.

So basically, ratings are now based almost exclusively on very very old people.
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So basically, ratings are now based almost exclusively on very very old people.

If only there were some other way to support my content besides having my viewing experience not be counted...
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I think ratings SHOULD be based on real time watching (as it seems the Nielsen System is trying to do). That's the only time commercials have a chance of being watched. Which is what is paying for the show. I wouldn't want to pay for commercial time on a show that gets DVR'd because I know no one will watch my commercial. Granted, people can buy an Almost Human t-shirt or mug which helps pay for the show. But I believe that commercials are still the main support for most shows. And if people aren't watching the show live, then they aren't watching the commercials.

They need to figure out a way to incorporate the commercial in the show with product placement. "Call the police with your new Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with that kick ass display you got when you signed up for your AT&T family plan with unlimited text, talk, and data for only $45 per line! While supplies lasted of course and since it wasn't void because it's not prohibited here. Hurry up! He's DYING!!" "Let's just drive him to the hospital in your new Lexus car you got for $450 per month and $3500 that was due at signing because you were a qualified buyer!" You know. Stuff just like that.




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They need to figure out a way to incorporate the commercial in the show with product placement.

With a modicum of writing talent, that's not that hard. That puts it heads and shoulders out of the reach of the industry whose response to every ratings crisis is another shitty reality show.

I think ratings SHOULD be based on real time watching...

Awesome. What happens when the ratings for every show drop to 0 because every human being on the planet realizes they can DVR that shit and starting watching 1/2 - 2/3rds of the way through?
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Using a DVR and skipping the commercials is morally identical to pirating a show that you would normally need to pay for, and is usually done for exactly the same reasons. (No, I am not saying that people use DVR's because they are cheap, I'm saying that people pirate for the convenience. But that's another more contentious thread.)

Right or wrong, DVR is the way things are now. Nielsen and ad-based revenue are dead concepts walking.




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Malcolm wrote:
They need to figure out a way to incorporate the commercial in the show with product placement.
With a modicum of writing talent, that's not that hard. That puts it heads and shoulders out of the reach of the industry whose response to every ratings crisis is another shitty reality show.
Was that intentional? If so, bravo!

Anyway, I disagree that ratings should be based on live viewings, but I do agree that the folks funding the project have to get their money back somehow.

Malcolm is correct about integrating it into the show. Chuck is a fantastic example. They got 2-3 more years out of Subway coming on as the primary sponsor, and blatant Subway ads were featured in every episode. Meanwhile, Chuck fans went to Subway and would tell them, "I'm here because of Chuck." That little statement is what got Subway behind the show in the first place.

I think networks need to do this more often. Get a corporate sponsor for your show to help offset costs. Even if the lowered cost doesn't make the network keep your show, it might make it enticing enough for another network to grab you. In this case, a major sponsor might get Almost Human picked up by SyFy or USA or Netflix.
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Was that intentional? If so, bravo!

I retroactively claim yes.

There was a Workaholics episode that was half an advert for Costco, half a show. There was another episode that made a huge, huge deal about pointing out the Dodge Dart that was being raffled off by the company.
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The Walking Dead is obviously sponsored by...a car company whose name I'm forgetting...
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I know that I am actively killing the shows that I watch by DVRing them, or waiting until they are on Netflix to watch them.

And I do see shows' ratings going to 0 eventually with everyone doing what I'm doing. That's why I hope they come up with a better way of getting shows paid for, and along with that, a better way of tracking viewers.

And ya, that's why Dancing, Idol, and CSI shows are multiplying. Because old people watch them, live. Thus, keeping their ratings high.
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Leisher wrote:The Walking Dead is obviously sponsored by...a car company whose name I'm forgetting...

They need to start highlighting the gun brands as well.

And funny thing is, if Daryl climbed into a car that was abandoned on the highway and they made it all dusty and stuff to make it look like it had been sitting for a really long time and started it and then said something like "And that's why I like these cars. No matter what, they always just start right up." That would sink in because of the way the show can absorb you into it. You believe that the car is surviving the zombie apocalypse. Plus, you like Daryl and value his opinion and experiences. Well, I know I do.




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I'm at a total, complete loss why HBO hasn't been shilling the True Blood drink during the show. The viewing audience has to be 75% female and the flavour would lend itself to so many fruity-ass cocktails.
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Cakedaddy wrote: And if people aren't watching the show live, then they aren't watching the commercials.
They aren't watching commercials even if they are wathing it as it airs. They are taking a piss, getting a drink, or playing a quick level of Flappy Birds. Waaaaay too many ways to distract ones self through commercials.
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