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Could you get someone in trouble by cutting a silhouette of a handgun out of tin foil and then putting that into a book that someone is going to take on an airplane? Or a notebook in their laptop bag. When it gets x-rayed, would it be obvious it's not a gun? Too thin to register?
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Considering that you can't wear a t-shirt with a picture of a sci-fi gun on it onto a plane, I think it's safe to say your concealed gun-shaped piece of metal will be considered a serious attempt to hijack the plane. Only do it to someone you want to see in prison.
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I think it may register as a shadow, but not as a solid object, so it would obviously not be a gun.
But yeah, they'd still hunt it down because I don't think you're even supposed to have toy guns.
Plus, even though it would be obvious to a person of average intelligence that it was not a weapon, I don't think it' would be obvious to the people working at the airport.




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Considering that you can't wear a t-shirt with a picture of a sci-fi gun on it onto a plane, I think it's safe to say your concealed gun-shaped piece of metal will be considered a serious attempt to hijack the plane.

That's the UK.

Could you get someone in trouble by cutting a silhouette of a handgun out of tin foil and then putting that into a book that someone is going to take on an airplane?

Yes. I'm pretty sure the "zucchini in tinfoil" thing from Spinal Tap would get you arrested.
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Malcolm wrote:That's the UK.
When it comes to airport security, is there really any difference these days?
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TPRJones wrote:
Malcolm wrote:That's the UK.
When it comes to airport security, is there really any difference these days?
Oh yes. They're far more strict. They tend to be nicer about it, though.
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Make an aluminum cutout of a gun. Cut the cutout into different, non-gunnny shapes.

Put the individual pieces in the pages of a book... layed out just so so an xray would see a gun, but when the bag/book is searched, there is nothing that is gun-shaped.

Flip off the TSA on the way out.
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Flip off the TSA on the way <s>out</s> to jail.


I am 100% certain they would try to arrest you on some sort of bullshit charge about attempting to deceive an officer or something like that. Probably wouldn't make it too far into the process, but they'd at least take you in. Because Uncle Sam needs to make sure you know your place, Citizen.
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Because Uncle Sam needs to make sure you know your place, <s>Citizen</s> citizen.

They probably wouldn't even give you the benefit of capitalization, and that's UNCLE SAM, just so we all know who's more important.




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Yeah... that's why I can't fly any more. I haven't flown since the cancer scanner/or grope option went in. I am not willing to take a bite out of the shit sandwich any more.
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If you want to bully people around but you're not smart enough to be a police officer (or can't pass the psychological test) then you become a security guard, like the ones at the airport.
So yeah, you're in for bad times if you screw with them.

They look for excuses, and a gun shaped thing is a beautiful excuse.
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GORDON wrote:Yeah... that's why I can't fly any more. I haven't flown since the cancer scanner/or grope option went in. I am not willing to take a bite out of the shit sandwich any more.
If you travel with your kid, they will escort you and the kid through without going through the scanner.

They always do that with me when I travel with my daughter.
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Yeah but I also don't want anyone groping him.
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No searches.
You both walk through the metal detector.
I think any kid under 12, and the accompanying adult both only get the metal detector.

At least that was the case in the three airports I remember going through.
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I only have to walk through the metal detector.
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Have the naked rape cancer scanners been removed from everywhere?
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GORDON wrote:Have the naked rape cancer scanners been removed from everywhere?
When going through security, I can tell which lines go to which variety of machine that provides a false sense of security, so it's half and half. I had some kind of liquid-hand-wipe test last time, presumably to check if I'm a human ignition system or I've been handling various blow-uppy chems recently. No more annoying than using a moist toilette after eating wings. I was entirely willing to trade that for not taking out my laptop and leaving on my shoes. It's not breaching Byzantine's most inner wall, but it's cracking the outermost ones.
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I had my bag swapped at the Burbank airport once.
I had to stand there as they opened the bag.

It tested positive for gunpowder, but I told them I shoot guns in my back yard, and they let me go without any more searching.

My "best" security experience was within a year or two of 9/11.
My drivers license had expired and the people in Burbank wouldn't let me use it, so I had to go to the "special screening" area.

It ends up there was no line there.
I walked through a metal detector and they gave me a quick pat down.
My daughter was with me and she got a half hearted pat down too.
It took 3 minutes to go through the special section rather than the 20 minutes it would have taken in the real line.

Plus, since they let me know that my license had expired I was able to get it renewed one day before the grace period had ended, so I only had to pay the renewal fee rather than retake the test.




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If I ever try to fly again I'll probably end up on the news with my pants around my ankles screaming "YOU WANT TO SEE MY JUNK, HERE IT IS!!" at the TSA agents.

Although being on the no-fly lists is also an issue.
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I have come up with a proper name for the TSA agents. "Reject rent-a-cop" is still accurate, but I like "hall monitor" better.
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