Prometheus - Formerly: Alien Prequels
I'll try not to spoil things.
I saw the film last night.
I was not impressed.
I didn't really like any of the characters. Well, maybe the ship captain, who was sort of a minor character.
It's always more difficult to answer questions in a film than it is to ask them, but I think the writers really stretched and contorted things to make things fit their story.
And then at the end some really important stuff that has no why is told to us
Early in the film they showed something and I thought, "deus ex machina will actually be a machine." You'll think the same thing when they have to explain a piece of equipment that even they admit is out of place.
When the Scooby & Shaggy characters meet the dick monster they should run, not try to stroke it.
Don't expect an answer to anything important by the end of the movie.
The movie brings up some stuff at the end that doesn't make much sense, which I guess they hope to answer in Prometheus II.
Edited By Paul on 1339630804
I saw the film last night.
I was not impressed.
I didn't really like any of the characters. Well, maybe the ship captain, who was sort of a minor character.
It's always more difficult to answer questions in a film than it is to ask them, but I think the writers really stretched and contorted things to make things fit their story.
And then at the end some really important stuff that has no why is told to us
Early in the film they showed something and I thought, "deus ex machina will actually be a machine." You'll think the same thing when they have to explain a piece of equipment that even they admit is out of place.
When the Scooby & Shaggy characters meet the dick monster they should run, not try to stroke it.
Don't expect an answer to anything important by the end of the movie.
The movie brings up some stuff at the end that doesn't make much sense, which I guess they hope to answer in Prometheus II.
Edited By Paul on 1339630804
I am not hearing good things about this film from anybody.
This doesn't bode well for WWZ as they just hired the writer of Prometheus to fix their script.
This doesn't bode well for WWZ as they just hired the writer of Prometheus to fix their script.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Just watched my blu ray copy, and the deleted scenes, I think, really added a lot to the movie. I watched a couple of the deleted scenes with director commentary on... and he said both times something to the effect, "We felt like this explained too much, so we cut it to make the film more mysterious."
Which is just stupid.
I guess I will pirate the version of the movie where the deleted scenes are put back in, because I am not going to pay for it again just to get the finished version.
Which is just stupid.
I guess I will pirate the version of the movie where the deleted scenes are put back in, because I am not going to pay for it again just to get the finished version.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
So, I'm assuming everyone has seen the movie by now. . . So, Spoilers:
So, we did create the Alien? Or did we create a human/alien hybrid at the end? And ya, TONS of "Why are you doing that" came up. Shaggy and Scooby scared of potential life forms, dead bodies, etc. When they actually find life, they try to pet it. The rolling donut scenario. C-Section chick running around, diving across gaps, etc, like a champ. Sometimes it hurts, other times it doesn't. The robot chamber can perform automated surgical operations, except stop the pain. Could have at least administered a local. They forgot to put that in there? Calibrated for men only? And it's in the part of the ship where the selfish woman lives? Etc.
Not a fan.
So, we did create the Alien? Or did we create a human/alien hybrid at the end? And ya, TONS of "Why are you doing that" came up. Shaggy and Scooby scared of potential life forms, dead bodies, etc. When they actually find life, they try to pet it. The rolling donut scenario. C-Section chick running around, diving across gaps, etc, like a champ. Sometimes it hurts, other times it doesn't. The robot chamber can perform automated surgical operations, except stop the pain. Could have at least administered a local. They forgot to put that in there? Calibrated for men only? And it's in the part of the ship where the selfish woman lives? Etc.
Not a fan.
Suckfest.
This franchise stopped being good after Aliens. Not one decent movie since.
This franchise stopped being good after Aliens. Not one decent movie since.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
And why did they have to come about because of us? How fucking arrogant are human beings that we think everything exists because of us?
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Tonight, I will answer the age old question that has been facing generations since June 8, 2012: how much must one drink before Prometheus is good? DVR'd it, and since I just paid too goddamn much to register my car I bought ten months ago, I'm in the mood to be cheated again.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
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This blog post made me want to watch it:
I saw the new Ridley Scott movie, Prometheus, this weekend. Over at Language Log there is an ongoing discussion in an attempt to translate a sentence spoken in the movie, which is thought to be proto-Indo-European.
The movie’s connection to proto-Indo-European language and mythology doesn’t end there, however.
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This scene’s inspiration no doubt was drawn from the creation myths of the Indo-Europeans. “Analysis of all these tales indicates that the Proto-Indo-Europeans believed that the progenitors of mankind were *Man (Indic Manu, German Mannus) and *Twin, the latter of which was sacrificed and carved up by his brother to produce mankind.” J.P. Mallory, In Search of the Indo-Europeans, Language, Archaeology and Myth, p. 140 (Thames & Hudson 1989).
Oh. My. Fucking. God. I feel like the movie is only halfway done and hasn't even really started yet. But it's over. WTF?
Then again, this only felt like half a movie anyway. I say that as someone that fucking admires Ridley Scott's first four flicks (The Duellists, Alien, Blade Runner, Legend). The last three would have to rank in my top 20 of recent history.
Yeah, Idris Elba was easily the most sympathetic character. The only dude who seemed to have anything resembling a right brain. Everyone else deserved the shit they got except maybe the geologist because he had the instinct to get the fuck out of Dodge at the right time, he just didn't follow it.
I mainly blame the producer and the director ... who happen to be the same person. Does he even remember how to make compelling cinema anymore? Evidence...
I cannot overemphasize how much that last one drills the over-the-top dumb-ass bulls-eye right down the middle.
In terms of stupidity, this point in the story ranks somewhere between Kevin Costner shooing away his superpowered son during a tornado and the previous season of Dallas being a dream.
The scenes with David walking around discovering shit, the holo-projections happening, the albino and the starfish-looking monster going at it? Goddamn, all that was awesome. Ship captain said something like, "They aren't stupid enough to make a weapon of mass destruction on their own planet." The thing that chestbursts from the albino at the end, that's like a proto-Alien/xenomorph. They make it painfully obvious the snake-thing and starfish-thing are supposed to be really early versions.
I do see a problem, though. The thing that erupts from albino is the proto-Alien. Then what were the Predators hunting back in the day? Aside from the Weyland Corp mention and the obvious proto-Alien at the end, this could be a completely separate fictitious universe.
As far as why, who gives a fuck? The robot might have it right. Maybe life on Earth was their hobby and they felt the need to reset shit. Would it be interesting to find out? Only if Ridley Scott isn't calling the fucking shots.
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Then again, this only felt like half a movie anyway. I say that as someone that fucking admires Ridley Scott's first four flicks (The Duellists, Alien, Blade Runner, Legend). The last three would have to rank in my top 20 of recent history.
I didn't really like any of the characters. Well, maybe the ship captain, who was sort of a minor character.
Yeah, Idris Elba was easily the most sympathetic character. The only dude who seemed to have anything resembling a right brain. Everyone else deserved the shit they got except maybe the geologist because he had the instinct to get the fuck out of Dodge at the right time, he just didn't follow it.
But someone certainly screwed it in writing, editing, or both.
I mainly blame the producer and the director ... who happen to be the same person. Does he even remember how to make compelling cinema anymore? Evidence...
"We felt like this explained too much, so we cut it to make the film more mysterious." Which is just stupid.
...
Shaggy and Scooby scared of potential life forms, dead bodies, etc. When they actually find life, they try to pet it.
...
Calibrated for men only?
I cannot overemphasize how much that last one drills the over-the-top dumb-ass bulls-eye right down the middle.
In terms of stupidity, this point in the story ranks somewhere between Kevin Costner shooing away his superpowered son during a tornado and the previous season of Dallas being a dream.
So, we did create the Alien? Or did we create a human/alien hybrid at the end?
The scenes with David walking around discovering shit, the holo-projections happening, the albino and the starfish-looking monster going at it? Goddamn, all that was awesome. Ship captain said something like, "They aren't stupid enough to make a weapon of mass destruction on their own planet." The thing that chestbursts from the albino at the end, that's like a proto-Alien/xenomorph. They make it painfully obvious the snake-thing and starfish-thing are supposed to be really early versions.
I do see a problem, though. The thing that erupts from albino is the proto-Alien. Then what were the Predators hunting back in the day? Aside from the Weyland Corp mention and the obvious proto-Alien at the end, this could be a completely separate fictitious universe.
As far as why, who gives a fuck? The robot might have it right. Maybe life on Earth was their hobby and they felt the need to reset shit. Would it be interesting to find out? Only if Ridley Scott isn't calling the fucking shots.
Edited By Malcolm on 1378523471
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
I don't even feel like splaining shit I have read about since he movie came out... too much. I don't know where it falls between, "Look at it from another perspective" and "deleted scenes/expanded material that wasn't in the movie." The first thing is valid, and is discussion. Things that you only understand from deleted scenes and "companion motion comics" or whatever companion piece that comes out is kind of weak. You shouldn't need a comic to understand motivations in a movie.
But there was some youtube video that came out at one point that explained a lot of the seemingly dumb decisions people make in this movie. Don't feel like searching for it right now.
But there was some youtube video that came out at one point that explained a lot of the seemingly dumb decisions people make in this movie. Don't feel like searching for it right now.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
What's the other perspective? It doesn't matter how much cool linguistic/scientific/biological whatever they injected, the core entertainment value is sapped, drained, enervated, and withered due to the shitty plot, shitty characters, and shitty setting.
I should not need a youtube video to explain a 2+ hour movie to me. The people who made it had over 120 minutes to explain it. That means the movie fucked up.
Edited By Malcolm on 1378527921
I should not need a youtube video to explain a 2+ hour movie to me. The people who made it had over 120 minutes to explain it. That means the movie fucked up.
Edited By Malcolm on 1378527921
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
