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So their faces were used in a way they didn't intend... all they have to do is explain to the insane, murderous mob that it is all a big misunderstanding. The insane, murderous mob will understand and leave them alone.

Ok, ok, sarcasm. I think the insane, murderous mob is the problem, and will always be the problem, and the solution is not to implement "walk on eggshells around them" legislation.




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I'd rather walk a bit more carefully than have buildings and ambassadors blown to shit. It's cheaper.
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I can't even see how that's applicable here. If you want to desensitize hypersensitive Muslims by insulting them, go right ahead. Seems like trying to smother a fire with a lake full of kerosene.
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I guess it comes down to personality types. I would rather live in civilization where we don't tolerate barbarians acting like barbarians, and you keep saying "too expensive" or some such thing.
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I absolutely agree that the actors may have reasons for a solid civil case to stop it. It's when people talk of arresting him for some sort of imagined "don't piss off the crazies" criminal statute that I get annoyed.
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GORDON wrote:I guess it comes down to personality types. I would rather live in civilization where we don't tolerate barbarians acting like barbarians, and you keep saying "too expensive" or some such thing.

Lack of tolerance for barbarism doesn't stop it. The first amendment did shit all good to protect the buildings and people inside them. Your speech is as free as your ammo is plentiful. To use the Die Hard analogy, if someone wants to walk around Harlem with a sign that says, "I hate niggers," that's their thing. If they want to walk the walk while other people are tethered to them, it's quite another matter.

EDIT: In either case, whether or not the walker lives to see another day is directly dependent upon how much military force he brings to back up his words. I haven no sympathy or tolerance for unarmed prophets.




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If the Marines in the compounds actually had live rounds and were allowed to kill the fuck out of everyone jumping the wall, none of this would be happening.
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Regarding TPR's two posts here, I agree 100%.

This asshat could have raped babies during the making of the film, but that still doesn't excuse the behavior it has inspired.

If you're rioting and killing folks because some asshole made a ridiculously terrible movie, THAT NOBODY SAW, half a world away, then you are an utter and complete waste of human life. You need to kill every single person that agrees with you, and then kill yourself. You will not be depriving the world of any art, any medicine, or science that will be furthering mankind. You'll simply be improving the gene pool.

Take away oil and that region of the world's main exports are: Hate, Bigotry, Intolerance, and Terrorism.

Yet, we have to smile and pretend these are "extremists", and that religion really is based on happy happy, joy joy feelings of peace and harmony.

Fuck that shit.

It might be a religion of peace and tolerance to those Muslims who have escaped that region, but not to the folks who are there and oppressed without even realizing it.

It's literally all they have.

What we should have done with Iraq is announced, prior to our invasion, that we're going to be installing a new government that is based on profit sharing. No longer would the government or the people in power be the only ones who see the oil money. From now on, everyone would get an annual check based on oil sales.

Once everyone in Iraq owned X-Boxes, TVs, and the internet, Islam would begin taking a backseat. Ask Japan.

"Hey Muhammed, you want to go suicide bomb some Israelis?"

"Nah man, I'm gonna go surf Reddit and then play League of Legends."




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GORDON wrote:If the Marines in the compounds actually had live rounds and were allowed to kill the fuck out of everyone jumping the wall, none of this would be happening.
Yeah, that'll cause less of an incident.
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The other choice is to close down the embassies, stop the foreign aid, and give them the finger on the way out. We can learn to live without their oil.

EDIT: Hell, if the idiot greens would stop blocking nuclear plants, we'd be using a lot less oil for awhile now. Ultimately, it's all Ralph Nader's fault.




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TPRJones wrote:The other choice is to close down the embassies, stop the foreign aid, and give them the finger on the way out. We can learn to live without their oil.

EDIT: Hell, if the idiot greens would stop blocking nuclear plants, we'd be using a lot less oil for awhile now. Ultimately, it's all Ralph Nader's fault.
Fucking amen. Then they can turn their destructive tendencies towards the fucktards that run their countries into the ground.
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Leisher wrote:Once everyone in Iraq owned X-Boxes, TVs, and the internet, Islam would begin taking a backseat. Ask Japan.
Maybe not the best example.
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Well, in fairness to these Japanese men, have you ever really spent much time with a typical modern Japanese woman? The idea of that being what you have to live with for the rest of your life would drive anyone over the edge.



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That's their fault their culture has fostered that mentality for years.
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Malcolm wrote:
Leisher wrote:Once everyone in Iraq owned X-Boxes, TVs, and the internet, Islam would begin taking a backseat. Ask Japan.
Maybe not the best example.
I don't think that diminishes my point.

Suicide has been a part of Japan since forever.

Call me when they're strapping bombs onto their bodies and running into schools.
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Here's some Christian psychos in another part of the third world. They like kidnapping kids and forcing them into guerilla warfare. I promise you, they're just as Christian as the suicide bombers are Muslim.
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Well holy shit, Malcolm has totally convinced me that free speech should only be allowed as long as it doesn't upset anyone.
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Vile Rat, aka, Sean Smith, was one of the four Americans killed. He was very well known in EVE online as a pioneer of corporation diplomacy and for pushing some major features.

He was one of the most well known and respected members of Goonswarm, and started playing about the same time we did. I only met him a few times in game for diplo stuff, but later got to know him on the football side of the SA forums.

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I guess this picture speaks a thousand words.

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