The First Obama Term

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The First Obama Term

He'll be assassinated before he takes office.
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He'll be assinated in office.
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14%
He really is the anti-christ and we're all going to die.
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21%
His Presidency will be a failure of Jimmy Carter Proportions.
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14%
His Presidency will be seen by history as mediocre.
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36%
His Presidency will be seen as a success of Reagan proportions.
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14%
He really is the second coming of Christ and GORDON is screwed.
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Post by Malcolm »

Leisher wrote:The next 2.5 - 6.5 years?
Exactly.

After that, I think even they know it'd be a stretch to continue blaming Bush.

I don't think Bush did anything in office that will have a lasting effect, ala The New Deal.[/quote]
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Malcolm wrote:
Leisher wrote:The next 2.5 - 6.5 years?
Exactly.

After that, I think even they know it'd be a stretch to continue blaming Bush.

I don't think Bush did anything in office that will have a lasting effect, ala The New Deal.
The Homeland Lack of Security Department. The unquestionable authority of the TSA.[/quote]
I was going to say that... but the New Deal changed just about everything in the country.
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Post by GORDON »

I think my 4 year old son could have come closer to throwing a strike.

That was Kerryesque.

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Wow, that pitch was way left! :D
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GORDON wrote:The Homeland Lack of Security Department. The unquestionable authority of the TSA.
I was going to say that... but the New Deal changed just about everything in the country.[/quote]
Yeah, well, I just booked a flight, so guess which it uppermost in my mind.
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TheCatt wrote:Dear kids,

Get an education
Perhaps there's a correlation, but not a causation. Maybe education level is a proxy for some other variable that is more important to employability.
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Like motivation, drive, and a sense of personal responsibility?

Look at the unemployment rates for those without even a high school diploma. That's pretty easy to get these days, too. These aren't just your average screw-ups, these people work hard at being a drain on society.
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TPRJones wrote:Like motivation, drive, and a sense of personal responsibility?
Drive. Plenty of irresponsible motherfuckers get quite far in life.
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This is just begging to be ripped to shreds.
Toward the end of a question-and-answer session with workers at an advanced battery technology manufacturer, a woman named Doris stood to ask the president whether it was a "wise decision to add more taxes to us with the health care" package.

"We are over-taxed as it is," Doris said bluntly.

Obama started out feisty. "Well, let's talk about that, because this is an area where there's been just a whole lot of misinformation, and I'm going to have to work hard over the next several months to clean up a lot of the misapprehensions that people have," the president said.

Emphasis mine.
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TPRJones wrote:Like motivation, drive, and a sense of personal responsibility?
No, I figure it's intelligence..
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Possibly, but that could just be another correlating factor with what I mentioned, too.

There's a reason "slow" also means stupid. Dumber people - generally speaking - are less likely to be goal-oriented and proactive and all that.
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My brother and brother-in-law are plenty intelligent, but neither finished their degrees.
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TheCatt wrote:My brother and brother-in-law are plenty intelligent, but neither finished their degrees.
You do understand correlations, right?
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thibodeaux wrote:
TheCatt wrote:My brother and brother-in-law are plenty intelligent, but neither finished their degrees.
You do understand correlations, right?
Yes, just saying it isn't just intelligence.
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I still don't understand what the big deal is about unemployment. Every time I've decided to get a new job, I've always gotten a pretty good offer from someone within three days. If I hold out a whole week I usually find something great. And I'm not that special - no degree, no official professional qualifications, no easily-identifiable classification of profession, even. It's just not that hard to find a job.

The problem isn't people that can't find work, it's people not willing to take the work they can find. And I'm not talking about McDonald's, either, I mean decently good jobs that people think they are too good to do. That or they just aren't looking hard enough to begin with.

Bah. Unemployment is - in most cases - a choice. I have little sympathy.




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I'm going to guess you're smarter than 98% of the population.
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I've found that at least 50% of getting hired in a white collar environment is being friendly and personable.
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I won't argue with you about that, TheCatt. :)

Partly it's just a matter of volume, really. I define "not trying hard enough" as failing to complete at least 20 applications a day. Less than that if you have several interviews to go to, as those can eat up some time.
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GORDON wrote:I've found that at least 50% of getting hired in a white collar environment is being friendly and personable.
The other 50% is knowing the right people. It's got pretty much zero to do w\ the skills you have.
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Malcolm wrote:
GORDON wrote:I've found that at least 50% of getting hired in a white collar environment is being friendly and personable.

The other 50% is knowing the right people. It's got pretty much zero to do w\ the skills you have.

As a programmer interviewing here and there, I would typically meet 4 or 5 people in the organization, including a senior programmer. The sr programmer would ask me 4 or 5 tech questions that could be answered in a single sentence. That was usually the extent of the technical questioning.

The rest of the interview was me being seen as a fun guy to work with.

edit - Only once did "knowing someone" get me in the door for an interview.




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