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Well, that and the only people who like young, snarky punks are other young, snarky punks.
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GORDON wrote:Win7 will have "XP Mode."

http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs....-7.aspx
Read another article about this today. The dude's argument was that while XP mode is a good thing, the implementation they want (modified XP stuffed into VirtualPC) is ugly compared to what they could've done. Dunno exactly if he's full of shit or not (ain't checked the tech specs), but his one-line about Microsoft was pretty good ... something like, "We see yet again a 'good enough' solution from a company that stopped producing truly innovative technology years ago."
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And speaking of marketing, is anyone else starting to think the PC guy in the PC vs Mac ads is starting to be a more compelling character simply because he's developed way more personality over two years of ads? I noticed that the other night when one of the ads came on. They used to piss me off. Then they just annoyed me. Now the PC guy seems like the likeable underdog with the spunky personality. Just seems like Apple may have gone overboard and are just preaching to the already converted at this point.


Those commercials really press the boundaries of stretching the truth.

Have you seen the latest one where PC is wearing the bio suit for fear of all the viruses and Mac is saying how he doesn't need to worry? That's a great example of not telling the whole story.

I really wish someone on the PC side of things had the balls to make a commercial that tells the truth behind the Mac vs. PC ads.

Mac - "I don't need to worry about PCs."
PC - "That's true, but not because you're better than me. Your own experts admit that you've got more security flaws and vulnerabilities than me, but you still don't have to worry about hackers and viruses because, to put it bluntly, nobody cares about you. You're 10% of the market. You're not profitable to hackers and virus writers because nobody uses you."
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Happy Cinco De Mayo!
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Hmm... I may have to fire up this old junker box this month sometime and try it out.
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Malcolm wrote:
GORDON wrote:Win7 will have "XP Mode."

http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs....-7.aspx
Read another article about this today. The dude's argument was that while XP mode is a good thing, the implementation they want (modified XP stuffed into VirtualPC) is ugly compared to what they could've done. Dunno exactly if he's full of shit or not (ain't checked the tech specs), but his one-line about Microsoft was pretty good ... something like, "We see yet again a 'good enough' solution from a company that stopped producing truly innovative technology years ago."
This is the sort of bullshit I mean ... so XP mode, if you've got the right CPU. & looks like it won't help w\ game compatibility. Well, fuck that shyte. I'll retrofit my software some other way.
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Just got realeased to MSDN... downloading now.
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Installing now.

It did a compatibility check of installed software.
SQL Server 2008 Developer Edition
MagicISO
(something else)

Were incompatible. But it also said MagicISO and the something else could just be re-installed and work.

Right now it's gathering files/settings/etc. Been running since 9:30pm
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You can still use the computer while the first part of the upgrade is happening, however, when it's done getting settings/etc (which took about an hour for me), it just reboots - no warning.

It finished overnight after I went to bed, and I woke up to it up and running.

The only issue was getting my Sprint aircard working, and that worked after I rebooted and found some new Windows 7 drivers.

Not much to say so far. It's snappier than Vista, and the new program pane is a quite different (no more quick launch, as it and the windows manager on the taskbar are the same thing)
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Remote Desktop no longer supports 8-bit color. I use 8-bit color on my home machine because the uplink is so bad. I may have to switch to VNC.
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After a day, I don't have much to say. I really spend most of my time in a browser, apparently.

The upgrade was painless, and everything seems to be here (went from Vista x64 Ultimate to Windows 7 x64 Ultimate).

One thing that matters to me is efficient use of space. I feel like Office 2007 is the worst example of efficient use. It takes some getting used to, but W7 combines the quick launch and task mgr into a single bar. It's much more compact than Vista was. I like it, but it's a little odd.
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Compared to using XP, is the product worth the cost of upgrading?

Why or why not?




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The problem with upgrading from XP is that it's not direct. I have no idea how it's done.

If XP is working for ya, I wouldn't bother.

The main nice things W7 has is 1) direct ISO burning and 2) Windows Media Player finally comes with all the codecs it should have had originally. (divx, xvid, etc)

But I would definitely upgrade if I were running Vista.
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Unexpected benefit: slightly better battery life.

When I work out on the stationary bike, I watch tv shows on my laptop. My laptop is a 17", dual hard drive, dual video card beast with no battery life. After a 40 minute workout, it has just over 10% battery left, with a total lifetime of about 50 minutes.

On Windows 7, it had 29% after my workout, which would mean about 60 minutes of battery life. I noticed the same thing yesterday, but didn't do the #s.
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Put windows 7 on the wife;s laptop.

It bluescreens every time it wakes up from sleep mode. Bah.
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Apparently, OS licensing customers are now allowed to purchase it.

Boxed copies coming in 6 weeks.
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So far I'm a fan. The new quick-launch/task bar integration takes some getting used to, but is really nice once you get used to it. I'm a fan of anything that gives me more screen real-estate. (Note to Microsoft and your stupid, stupid ribbons - I will NEVER have enough monitor space, so stop taking it).

Windows Media Player has strangely stopped working on my machine. But I don't use it much, so I haven't looked into it.

Other than that, it works well. Just feels better/snappier than Vista too.
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Leisher wrote:Apparently, OS licensing customers are now allowed to purchase it.

Boxed copies coming in 6 weeks.
1. What is the boot time like? Even shutting down a bunch of crap like "widgets" I am still unhappy with the Vista boot time. Every time I have to sit and wait for it I think, "I'd already be working on my XP system."

2. Is there a cheap "for system builders" out yet?
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Boot time is going to vary depending on your hardware and loaded software as always. Still, it does fine. Faster than Vista, but it won't be tweaked by 12 years of service like XP.

No boxed copies at all out yet if that's what you mean by "For system builders".
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