Vince wrote:I had to stop watching any of those series because the science got way too stupid. If you're watching a show about science and the science is stupid, then the series becomes stupid.
Agreed. I don't mind crazy advanced technology. I don't mind making up physics that are far different from what we now understand. What bothers me is when they take a concept we do understand and stick in the words in an attempt to make it sounds good when they completely ignore the concepts attached to those words.
If you you are going to try to use something real, use it right. If you want to make something up, then just go ahead and make it up, don't try to pass it off as something real now if you don't understand it.
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'm starting to think those weren't really black holes. I mean, one causes time travel, and one is used to eat a supernova, one is used to destroy a planet, and one is used to kill a ship. So now, what, we're expected to accept that there's a black hole right above San Francisco, which ate Nero's ship? That's still going to destroy the Earth... unless it isn't really a black hole.
Maybe it was just a phenomenon that eats all nearby mass in the immediate area, and then dissipates. Would explain why one drop would eat a planet, but then the whole sphere doesn't cause a galaxy-wide phenomenon. I think it is just a rendering of Ender's Game's Dr. Device. It just reacts to nearby mass, then stops.
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I think the cadets saw a phenomenon swallowing Vulcan, and had about 5 seconds to give it a label. The sensors told them it had the characteristics of a black hole, so they called it a black hole. Truth is, none of them had ever seen that phenomenon before, because Spock invented it 130 years in the future.
They weren't black holes.
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Oh! And did anyone else notice before they jumped that Olson was wearing a red suit for the skydive onto the drilling platform and immediately conclude he would die?
I noticed that and laughed. I knew that guy was dead before they left the ship.
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The red stuff didn't bother me that much. To me it was one of those things writers come up with when they need a plot device they can't otherwise explain. So to me it was "magic red stuff" that can do whatever.
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I think the only real problem I have with the movie is the ice planet. Mostly because getting chased by monsters is YAWN when you know they aint gonna get Kirk, but then meeting Spock? Wow, that was lucky. Being a whole planet, and all.
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At the beginning in the bar, Uhura orders, among other things, Slusho. This was a big drink in Cloverfield, and the ARG speculated it was the ocean harvesting of Slusho that angered the monster. I wonder if both movies now happen in the same universe, and the reason Starfleet is in San Fran is because New York was destroyed by a monster and nuked when trying to kill the monster....
Monsters certainly exist in the Star Trek universe.
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GORDON wrote:I think the only real problem I have with the movie is the ice planet. Mostly because getting chased by monsters is YAWN when you know they aint gonna get Kirk, but then meeting Spock? Wow, that was lucky. Being a whole planet, and all.
Eh, this I can accept. Sort of. It's probably the only planet with a clear view of Vulcan (although as close as it was it really has to be more of a moon than a planet). And Nero wanted Spock Prime to live to see the destruction so he'd have dropped him off near the only installation on the planet. Same for young Spock with Kirk. Not too much coincidence there, just luck that they were close together in the 14km range of the station they both ended up at.
The monsters thing was annoying. Reminded me too much of Star Wars Ep I with the underwater fish/big fish/bigger fish thing. *sigh* Thankfully it was short.
That "sort of" in the first paragraph: that refers to the fact that traveling to Vulcan, 40+ light years, took about five or ten minutes but a few minutes after leaving Vulcan they're still within the orbit of the moon to drop Kirk on. The timing is fishy. But that's mainly because traveling to Vulcan from Earth with that tech should have taken days, not minutes.
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Didn't Chekov come up with a plan to get ahead of Nero using Scotty to "boost warp speeds" or whatever, comeout of warp so near to Saturn's moon Titan that Nero wouldn't see them, and then beam on to Nero's ship as it went past Saturn?
Because Nero was already drilling Earth when they came out of warp at Titan. So what did I miss?
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