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“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
PGA
Brooks Koepka is the first LIV golfer to head back to the PGA.
He cites personal reasons, and it's something I've never heard anyone discuss. These are mostly Americans and LIV has them playing away from the U.S. for a majority of their tournaments I believe. Got to be tough for golfers with younger families...despite the 9 figure paycheck...
I've heard the tours are no closer to merging, so it'll be interesting if this continues to happen. I expect once the 5 year exemptions start to run out for other big names, which would mean they cannot come back to play in majors, others will also walk away. You don't get noticed, get lucrative sponsorships, and get discussed with "the best" if you're not playing in the tournaments people actually watch.
He cites personal reasons, and it's something I've never heard anyone discuss. These are mostly Americans and LIV has them playing away from the U.S. for a majority of their tournaments I believe. Got to be tough for golfers with younger families...despite the 9 figure paycheck...
I've heard the tours are no closer to merging, so it'll be interesting if this continues to happen. I expect once the 5 year exemptions start to run out for other big names, which would mean they cannot come back to play in majors, others will also walk away. You don't get noticed, get lucrative sponsorships, and get discussed with "the best" if you're not playing in the tournaments people actually watch.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
PGA
Rory shits on LIV golfers.
The business side of this is interesting. The Saudis have spend $6B on LIV golf so far, and haven't made anything close to that back. This was meant to bring goodwill to Saudi Arabia, but the backlash has been pretty strong. Nobody is attending their events and fewer are watching them on TV. Attempts to consolidate have failed and are now bleaker with the current PGA Tour commish leaving. How long do they continue pumping money into a loser?"It's not as if they made any huge signings this year, is it?" McIlroy told The Telegraph of London on Thursday. "They haven't signed anyone who moves the needle, and I don't think they will. I mean, they could re-sign Bryson for hundreds of millions of dollars, but even if they do, it doesn't change their product, does it? They'll just be paying for the exact same thing."
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Re: PGA
This is just disgusting sexism. It's obvious when Tiger drives he uses his Asian heritage...
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Re: PGA
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Re: PGA
This is pretty cool. The concession losses are not a concern thanks to their rich members. Ditto for how the tournament can be aired with only 4 minutes of ads an hour.
Non-golf people probably don't understand that this is a dream trip for golfers, and many plan vacations around it. Tickets are hard to get.
Non-golf people probably don't understand that this is a dream trip for golfers, and many plan vacations around it. Tickets are hard to get.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Re: PGA
PGA seems to be close to implementing distance limits for driving.
This needs to happen. Equipment (balls and clubs) are getting so technologically advanced that they're making course distances obsolete. Courses are usually pretty land locked, so they can only expand so much. It takes a lot of the skill of golf away when it just becomes a "hit it farthest" contest.
So, like NASCAR, they need to simply limit the tech.
This needs to happen. Equipment (balls and clubs) are getting so technologically advanced that they're making course distances obsolete. Courses are usually pretty land locked, so they can only expand so much. It takes a lot of the skill of golf away when it just becomes a "hit it farthest" contest.
So, like NASCAR, they need to simply limit the tech.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Re: PGA
LIV dying will be good for the sport. Not that anyone was watching it, but all those big names being back in the PGA field will be huge.
It won't be good for the players who signed 8 and 9 figure guaranteed contracts. Now they'll go back to a merit based system.
It also won't be good for the PGA guys at the bottom of the rankings.
However, it will boost competition and LIV did force the PGA to increase payouts at all of their tournaments, so that was nice.
It won't be good for the players who signed 8 and 9 figure guaranteed contracts. Now they'll go back to a merit based system.
It also won't be good for the PGA guys at the bottom of the rankings.
However, it will boost competition and LIV did force the PGA to increase payouts at all of their tournaments, so that was nice.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Re: PGA
LIV to play 2026 season.
This does nothing to counter the aforementioned speculation that the league will be shut down. They're already 5 events into the season. The speculation is likely stemming from meetings regarding planning out the following season.
If I were a player on that tour, I'd be asking for a release.
This does nothing to counter the aforementioned speculation that the league will be shut down. They're already 5 events into the season. The speculation is likely stemming from meetings regarding planning out the following season.
If I were a player on that tour, I'd be asking for a release.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Re: PGA
Funding for the 2026 season might not be as solid as reported.
3 of their biggest names were given a window to return to the PGA earlier this year or late last year with Brooks Koepka for lenient penalties. They all passed. I wonder how they're feeling now.
3 of their biggest names were given a window to return to the PGA earlier this year or late last year with Brooks Koepka for lenient penalties. They all passed. I wonder how they're feeling now.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Re: PGA
WSJ says Saudis are officially pulling funding for LIV.
As the article states, that means the league is virtually dead.
Now the interesting part starts as these players try to return to the PGA.
As the article states, that means the league is virtually dead.
Now the interesting part starts as these players try to return to the PGA.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Re: PGA
Some LIV players have started reaching out looking to return to the PGA.
Meanwhile, LIV forms a new board to try and survive.
Nobody attends your tournaments. You have no TV contract. Your biggest investor, and the only reason the league was created, has pulled out. You're losing talent and will lose ALL even halfway decent talent once you start cutting payroll, prize money, and the number of tournaments.
It's over.
Meanwhile, LIV forms a new board to try and survive.
Yeah, it's doing great, which is why the Saudis stopped funding it.The league said its revenue is up more than 100% since 2025 and that four of its events and 10 of its 13 teams will turn profits this season.
Nobody attends your tournaments. You have no TV contract. Your biggest investor, and the only reason the league was created, has pulled out. You're losing talent and will lose ALL even halfway decent talent once you start cutting payroll, prize money, and the number of tournaments.
It's over.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Re: PGA
Right? Especially when they're not telling you the comparison number.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Re: PGA
Bryson Dechambeau will turn to YouTube if LIV folds.
TLDR: He's not willing to face his punishment for leaving and suing the PGA.
He honestly comes off like a narcissistic twat in this article. I'm one of the few who took Brooks Koepka's side in their feud and I think this is some vindication.
Nobody wants your bullshit team setup and your dozens of fans and financially bankrupt league proves it. You took a gamble, it didn't pay off, and now you can choose to be a man and face the consequences or let your ego push you into irrelevancy. Your call.
TLDR: He's not willing to face his punishment for leaving and suing the PGA.
He honestly comes off like a narcissistic twat in this article. I'm one of the few who took Brooks Koepka's side in their feud and I think this is some vindication.
Nobody wants your bullshit team setup and your dozens of fans and financially bankrupt league proves it. You took a gamble, it didn't pay off, and now you can choose to be a man and face the consequences or let your ego push you into irrelevancy. Your call.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell