2024 General Election Thread

[TheCatt]

EXCLUSIVE: Ethics committee told of second sexual encounter between Matt Gaetz and 17-year-old at party, sources say

Gaetz withdraws as Trump's attorney general pick

[Leisher]

Gaetz withdraws as Trump's attorney general pick

Good. I just do not like Gaetz. I enjoyed watching DC squirm over the announcement, but he's a creepy looking fuck and there's too much smoke around the 17 year old.

Who does Trump announce next? Giuliani right?

[TheCatt]

Gaetz withdraws as Trump's attorney general pick

Good. I just do not like Gaetz. I enjoyed watching DC squirm over the announcement, but he's a creepy looking fuck and there's too much smoke around the 17 year old.

Who does Trump announce next? Giuliani right?

OH LAWD

[TheCatt]

OK, a few questions if yall would indulge me, and I'm curious. I would answer, but I already got spoiled. (Without googling)

1 - What % of Americans are Muslim?
2 - What % of Americans have a household income of $1 million or more?
3 - What % of Americans are first-generation immigrants?
4 - What % of Americans are Asian?
5 - What % of Americans are members of a union?

[GORDON]

Are these for us to guess, without googling?

2. Income, not just worth?

[TheCatt]

Are these for us to guess, without googling?

2. Income, not just worth?

Yes, just guess without google.
2 - Yes, income.

[GORDON]

I'll take a swing.

1. <1% Muslim
2. <.01% annual millionaires
3. <.01% 1st gen immigrants
4. 7% Asian. "Asian" covers a lot of countries. I'm including everything from Turkey to Siberia to Vietnam, and Japan. Also considering everyone 75% or more Asian, regardless of which generation. Since no parameters were set.
5. 1% union membership

[TheCatt]

The #s are rounded to integers.

1 - 1% - I would have guessed a little higher, but not much.
2 - 0% - I would have guessed 1%.
3 - 14% - The only big miss here.
4 - 6%
5 - 4% - Would have guessed a little higher. I thought 12-15% of workers were union, then divide by half for people aren't working, 6-7.5%

[GORDON]

My #4 is impressive.

#3 I'm thinking they are including illegals........ A generation is 20 years? And we allow in, legally, a couple million a year (if i recall correctly)..... well, no, maybe I just wasn't thinking of a 20 year block. Because that would make it about 15%.

5. 1 in 25 workers being union feels high to me. I can think of 1 person in 100, personally, and I live in the manufacturing midwest. Even with Jeep here they are employing way less than 1% of the population of the city.

[GORDON]

5. I just realized, I think federal government employees are in unions. So there's the numbers.

[TheCatt]

5. I just realized, I think federal government employees are in unions. So there's the numbers.

Fed has 3M employees + 1.3M in the military.

[GORDON]

Military aint union, in spite of having the uniforms.

3 mil is another percent higher than I'd guessed.

[GORDON]

I think my very accurate understanding of the demographics of the USA is directly in line with my almost perfect political centrism.

[Cakedaddy]

few questions

1. 1 or less - I know there are pockets, but for the most part, there are no Muslims here.
2. 2% - that's a lot of money to make per year. (imho) I don't think that's very common.
3. 3% - I'm not counting illegals. 5% if we are.
4. 5% - there are a lot.
5. 2% - again, pockets of them, but US as a whole is non-union.

I would add that these are thing that I don't pay attention to, so I really have no idea.

[Leisher]

I was going to guess, but Gordon spoiled everything. I guess "almost perfect political centrism" doesn't include proper manners on a forum.

I would have also went slightly higher on Muslims, but I do live close to the largest population of the in the U.S., so that would skew my perception. Ditto for unions. I would have gotten the millionaire one correct thanks to a recent news clip I watched. The Asian one is irritating because it's the only mountain I haven't climbed...

#3 I'm thinking they are including illegals........ A generation is 20 years? And we allow in, legally, a couple million a year (if i recall correctly)..... well, no, maybe I just wasn't thinking of a 20 year block. Because that would make it about 15%.

My dad is in his late 70s and is a first gen American. (and his 9 brothers and sisters...)

Point being, this number still currently includes a lot of the offspring of people who came here in the heyday of Ellis Island.

[Cakedaddy]

includes a lot of the offspring

Why would it include offspring? If they were born here, they aren't immigrants.

[Leisher]

includes a lot of the offspring

Why would it include offspring? If they were born here, they aren't immigrants.

Am I reading the question wrong?

I took it as "What percentage of Americans are first generation?" Meaning, they're one step removed from immigrants.

I mean, what the hell is a first gen immigrant? An immigrant is just an immigrant.

[TheCatt]

I mean, what the hell is a first gen immigrant? An immigrant is just an immigrant.

A first generation immigrant is a person who was born outside of the United States and moved to the U.S. to live

So, not born here.

At any rate... here were the polled numbers, which are insanely bad. (Source: YouGov, 2022)

[TheCatt]

I love the lack of internal consistency. 1/3 of America lives in NYC, 1/3 lives in CA, and 1/3 lives in TX.

[Troy]

The amount of drama in my adult lifetime over T's which are 1% of the pop, is absolutely insane. Why both political parties picked this tiny population as the hill do die on is telling.