Peaceful Protesting 2020

Post by **Leisher** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 4:45 pm

And did you see the prosecutor when Grosskreutz was on the stand and admitted his actual actions versus the narrative we've been fed? Absolutely hilarious.

Post by **Leisher** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:43 am

The left side of the MSM continues to call Rittenhouse a white supremacist and keeps implying the verdict was unjust. Biden's tweet about the verdict calls him a white supremacist.

MAGA hat guy who sued CNN and they had to settle for millions is advising Rittenhouse to do that same.

He absolutely should as CNN clearly didn't learn shit from having to pay MAGA hat guy. No wonder their soon-to-be new owner thinks talking heads have no place in the news.

Post by **Leisher** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:17 pm

White supremacist groups held liable for Charlottesville violence.

Couldn't happen to nicer people, but this is interesting because it sets a precedent.

First of all, anyone whose stores were damaged by riots following BLM protests can now sue BLM. Ditto for people who lost loved ones or were injured. I don't think a lot of people celebrating this verdict have connected those dots yet.

Secondly, I don't think those racists set out to be violent in Charlottesville (crazy sentence to type), but the appearance of counter protesters led to it. Does that mean that if people are marching for breast cancer awareness, then a counter protest can show up, have it all lead to violence and the anti-breast cancer folks would be liable?

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:37 pm

As in.... PRO Breast Cancer supporters?

Post by **Leisher** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:20 pm

GORDON wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:37 pm As in.... PRO Breast Cancer supporters?

I was just making a ridiculous example, but there has to be at least one pro breast cancer person out there, right?

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:22 pm

They want to make breast cancer mandatory. And for the government to pay for it.

Post by **Leisher** » Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:31 am

Rittenhouse visits Trump.

Rittenhouse should have absolutely been found innocent, but that doesn't mean he's a good person. He still shouldn't have been there and I've seen the video of him punching a girl.

He is not a "hero" who should be trotted out as a trophy for shitty politicians. He's a kid who made bad decisions and ended up having to rightly defended himself.

Post by **GORDON** » Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:48 pm

I bet by the time he realized he'd made a bad choice, he had to start pulling triggers.

That being said, the guys who attacked him seem like morons in more than one way.

Post by **Leisher** » Tue Dec 21, 2021 4:27 pm

Burlington, Vermont cut their police force by 30%. It's not going well.

Post by **TheCatt** » Tue Dec 21, 2021 4:48 pm

Leisher wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 4:27 pm Burlington, Vermont cut their police force by 30%. It's not going well.

For now, the Burlington Police Department has incident data for 2021, which show that the total number of incidents fell by 11 percent in the first 11 months of the year compared to the same period last year.

Certain types of incidents did become more common, however, including burglary, vehicle thefts and mental health issues and overdoses.

Post by **Leisher** » Tue Dec 21, 2021 6:00 pm

TheCatt wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 4:48 pm For now, the Burlington Police Department has incident data for 2021, which show that the total number of incidents fell by 11 percent in the first 11 months of the year compared to the same period last year.

This means nothing without context and time. Every year is different statistically and 2020/2021 are just different period due to covid and whatnot. It will mean more over time if the number is sustained, but again, it'll matter where it comes from. For example: As Gordon points out, there are no cops on the roads here anymore. Do traffic stops count as incidents? That would include under the influence stops. How about patrols? With fewer cops are patrols no longer happening, which means crime is being "caught in the act" less? If Burlington's cops aren't able to perform those functions anymore because they're busy just constantly responding to calls... Plus, everyone is pissed about the situation, so you can't discount "don't bother calling the cops because they won't be here for hours anyway".

We need more data.