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TheCatt wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
Maybe Malcolm just needs to get laid.
Your mom something something something. Another tired, yet comical theory.
I'd said try it, but I'm guessing test subjects are hard to COME by.
I repeat my previous insult because it still applies just as well. I still can't give you credit for this answer because even I've considered it, and it's incorrect.
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omg, you have no penis?
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TheCatt wrote:omg, you have no penis?
Ask your mom.
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Wrong again.
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I have a penis... then again, I don't eat soylent....

That may never get old.
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GORDON wrote:I have a penis... then again, I don't eat soylent....
Yeah, you eat penis.
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No i said I DIDN'T eat soylent. I heard that was the protein not even good enough for Spam.
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GORDON wrote:No i said I DIDN'T eat soylent. I heard that was the protein not even good enough for Spam.
Your protein comes from jizz.
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mmmm jizz. gallons of it.
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You have no balls? You're celibate by choice? Are you gay? JFC, just tell us.
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TheCatt wrote:You have no balls? You're celibate by choice? Are you gay? JFC, just tell us.
Respectively:

No.


Wtf? Unless someone's in prison or on a deserted island ... isn't it all choice? I forget what comedian said it, but it went something like:
Most men can get pussy anytime they want. They just have to be willing to lower their standards sometimes.
And don't some of you motherfuckers think free will is an illusion anyway? Minus my constant apathy, I'm nowhere near as socially incompetent as some of y'all seem to think. But when I don't give a fuck, it usually makes me come off as Randall from Clerks plus Lewis Black in constant mid-rant.

Much to the chagrin of Leish and G, not last I checked, so I can't get in on their weekend man-on-man-on-chicken orgies.

Finally, I forget what I'm supposed to be telling you. Wtf are you expecting again, the reason I'm me or what? If you could explain what getting laid would cure me of. I'm unclear on that last bit.
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Men who get laid tend to be happier.
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I was going to post this on FB, but maybe it's too political. And I'm not quite sure where I'm going with it.
When I went to college, I didn't major in Computer Science because I didn't really think it was a career, so much as just a fun thing to do.

Instead, I majored in Economics and Latin American Studies (which often confounds my software engineering co-workers when they find out). As part of those studies, I learned a lot about inequity, capitalism, alternative economic systems, trade agreements, and more. At the time, NAFTA and its potential impacts were being heavily debated. The truth was, no one knew what would happen, and the range of outcomes was large and varied. One of the largest concerns I felt had to be addressed was those who would be left behind, or whose lives would be altered, by trade. Conventional wisdom was so focused on the fact that rising trade would lift average standards of living, that the losers of free trade were mostly ignored. US Citizens definitely benefited in aggregate, but large numbers of Americans did not.

Technology is our new NAFTA. The lives of millions are being improved, and several new billionaires and millionaires are being generated, but there are also new people being left behind, and telling people to adapt isn't going to fix the problems.

I can understand the anger of Bernie and Trump supporters left behind by these developments. But I'm not sure what the answer is.
WSJ Article I was responding to
he discontent driving Donald Trump’s campaign stems partly from the dashed employment promises of the late 1990s; $7-an-hour robots

By Jon Hilsenrath and Bob Davis
The technology revolution has delivered Google searches, Facebook friends, iPhone apps, Twitter rants and shopping for almost anything on Amazon, all in the past decade and a half.

What it hasn’t delivered are many jobs. Google’s Alphabet Inc. and Facebook Inc. had at the end of last year a total of 74,505 employees, about one-third fewer than Microsoft Corp. even though their combined stock-market value is twice as big. Photo-sharing service Instagram had 13 employees when it was acquired for $1 billion by Facebook in 2012.

Hiring in the computer and chip sectors dove after companies shifted hardware production outside the U.S., and the newest tech giants needed relatively few workers. The number of technology startups fizzled. Growth in productivity and wages slowed, and income inequality rose as machines replaced routine, low- and middle-income, human-powered work.
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TheCatt wrote:Men who get laid tend to be happier.
"Tend to." You're working from a general model and painting me as a typical case. Those are not sound assumptions. They're pussies, not personality swaps. There is no amount of fucking that's going to yield the effects you're picturing.
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Malcolm wrote:
TheCatt wrote:Men who get laid tend to be happier.
"Tend to." You're working from a general model and painting me as a typical case. Those are not sound assumptions. They're pussies, not personality swaps. There is no amount of fucking that's going to yield the effects you're picturing.
You should try it.
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Technology is our new NAFTA. The lives of millions are being improved, and several new billionaires and millionaires are being generated, but there are also new people being left behind, and telling people to adapt isn't going to fix the problems.

I can understand the anger of Bernie and Trump supporters left behind by these developments. But I'm not sure what the answer is.
The logical conclusion is that they'll eventually be forced to deal with it the same way the horse-and-carriage dudes did when Henry Ford gutted them.
Hiring in the computer and chip sectors dove after companies shifted hardware production outside the U.S., and the newest tech giants needed relatively few workers. The number of technology startups fizzled. Growth in productivity and wages slowed, and income inequality rose as machines replaced routine, low- and middle-income, human-powered work.
You mean, gasp, companies founded by math nerds did some math and applied basic minimization analysis to their biz? The hell you say. Next you'll tell me Uber and Lyft drivers are bitching about the self-driving cars because they couldn't see it coming. Economies change. Manual labour is becoming a specialist thing which tends to be very expensive over here and not other places. Want that to change? Rip out those minimum wage laws and "level the playing field" against the third-world sweatshop workers who'll bust their ass on 36-hour shifts for a shiny new quarter every 60 minutes. Or give consumers a reason to pay the premium for your shit.
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Malcolm wrote:
Technology is our new NAFTA. The lives of millions are being improved, and several new billionaires and millionaires are being generated, but there are also new people being left behind, and telling people to adapt isn't going to fix the problems.

I can understand the anger of Bernie and Trump supporters left behind by these developments. But I'm not sure what the answer is.
The logical conclusion is that they'll eventually be forced to deal with it the same way the horse-and-carriage dudes did when Henry Ford gutted them.
I don't think that's logical. Henry Ford couldn't send production to Mexico.
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Hiring in the computer and chip sectors dove after companies shifted hardware production outside the U.S., and the newest tech giants needed relatively few workers. The number of technology startups fizzled. Growth in productivity and wages slowed, and income inequality rose as machines replaced routine, low- and middle-income, human-powered work.
You mean, gasp, companies founded by math nerds did some math and applied basic minimization analysis to their biz? The hell you say. Next you'll tell me Uber and Lyft drivers are bitching about the self-driving cars because they couldn't see it coming. Economies change. Manual labour is becoming a specialist thing which tends to be very expensive over here and not other places. Want that to change? Rip out those minimum wage laws and "level the playing field" against the third-world sweatshop workers who'll bust their ass on 36-hour shifts for a shiny new quarter every 60 minutes. Or give consumers a reason to pay the premium for your shit.
Self-driving trucks would put out of work millions of people, who cannot do anything else. They can earn a decent middle class life today, and it's gone in 10-20 years.

It'll be fabulous for me, assuming I can get working another 20 years. But there's a lot of people being left behind, and they're getting mad.
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TheCatt wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
TheCatt wrote:Men who get laid tend to be happier.
"Tend to." You're working from a general model and painting me as a typical case. Those are not sound assumptions. They're pussies, not personality swaps. There is no amount of fucking that's going to yield the effects you're picturing.
You should try it.
I've indulged a broad sweep of vices in my time, usually individually and many before I could be prosecuted as an adult, because ... you know, scientific method and those records are generally sealed. Fucking was checked off the list long ago. Doesn't work, doesn't produce the results you claim, and ends up causing more problems than a coke habit. I get the feeling it'd do worse now.
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I can't fix you.
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I don't think that's logical. Henry Ford couldn't send production to Mexico.
It was cheap enough here at the time. But if he could've outsourced his labour, that chincy, cheap Nazi bastard would have.
Self-driving trucks would put out of work millions of people, who cannot do anything else. They can earn a decent middle class life today, and it's gone in 10-20 years.
They've got 10-20 years to figure out a new skill. My industry is inherently learning new shit over and over and over again. You cannot freeze technological progress nor will you be able to force the corps to play ball and pay expensive, error-prone humans who get sick and need medical leave, vacations, ad nauseum. The horse is out of the barn and the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire. People have to be ready, willing, and able to learn new shit. Evolution says so, natural selection says so, economics says so.
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TheCatt wrote:I can't fix you.
I've been trying to make that point for about half a dozen posts now.
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