That seems sincere.TPRJones wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....be&t=12I'm either being fucked with..
Cell/smart phones.... luxuries? Needs?
The problem is that wants and needs are a) relative and b) fluid.GORDON wrote:But most people are taught the difference between "wants" and "needs" in grade school, and I guess my mistake is that everyone had that common context.
Once again, I completely fail.
Your perspective is that of when you were taught the words, with the meaning that you were given at that time.
However, the word need has many meanings, not just "essential for survival." Thus, it's open to interpretation as to what constitutes and need, and what does not.
It's not me, it's someone else.
You don't need to read his mind.TheCatt wrote:We are supposed to be able to read your mind?GORDON wrote:Exactly my point. In the context I was using, "Needs" means "essential to survival." I had no idea everyone wouldn't automatically know the context.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
He clearly WANTS me to.Malcolm wrote:You don't need to read his mind.TheCatt wrote:We are supposed to be able to read your mind?GORDON wrote:Exactly my point. In the context I was using, "Needs" means "essential to survival." I had no idea everyone wouldn't automatically know the context.
It's not me, it's someone else.
Four other people were able to correctly glean context. I'd love it if any of them were here supporting my side of the argument but I guess I get what I get.TheCatt wrote:We are supposed to be able to read your mind?GORDON wrote:Exactly my point. In the context I was using, "Needs" means "essential to survival." I had no idea everyone wouldn't automatically know the context.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
GORDON wrote:Four other people were able to correctly glean context. I'd love it if any of them were here supporting my side of the argument but I guess I get what I get.TheCatt wrote:We are supposed to be able to read your mind?GORDON wrote:Exactly my point. In the context I was using, "Needs" means "essential to survival." I had no idea everyone wouldn't automatically know the context.
A man has three needs: food, sex, and silence. Feed me, fuck me, shut the fuck up.
- Chris Rock
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Then no, cell phones are not a need. By that definition water, nutritionally complete foods without toxins, and a properly oxygenated atmosphere without too much CO2 are the only needs.GORDON wrote:In the context I was using, "Needs" means "essential to survival."
But clearly that is not the definition you actually meant or you wouldn't have included shelter and clothing in there. You don't even know what you meant, so how could you expect us to?
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Warmth + sleep also.TPRJones wrote:Then no, cell phones are not a need. By that definition water, nutritionally complete foods without toxins, and a properly oxygenated atmosphere without too much CO2 are the only needs.GORDON wrote:In the context I was using, "Needs" means "essential to survival."
But clearly that is not the definition you actually meant or you wouldn't have included shelter and clothing in there. You don't even know what you meant, so how could you expect us to?
But yeah, that list stops on one hand.
Gordon's just confusing shit up by including non-essential items that are actually wants.
It's not me, it's someone else.
I don't disagree about shelter being a need. I'm just saying the necessity of it for survival is heavily dependant on climate, and that this discrepancy is because "need" is often more than just "necessary for survival".
"ATTENTION: Customers browsing porn must hold magazines with both hands at all times!"
Well, name a climate where, without shelter, you dont get rained on, cooked, eaten by insects, drowned, suffocated (very high altitued), frozen, or rotted away?TPRJones wrote:I don't disagree about shelter being a need. I'm just saying the necessity of it for survival is heavily dependant on climate, and that this discrepancy is because "need" is often more than just "necessary for survival".
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."