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My wife is binge watching this show, so I am exposed to it in 3 minute bites now and then.

Holy christ.

Twice I have walked through a room to see a teen girl talking with her Dad about how much she likes sex, and how it is a lot of fun, and how she doesn't know if she should sleep with that guy because his teen girlfriend is pregnant but she really wants to because sex is a lot of fun and feels really good, and the Dad is just listening patiently and letting her finish and is just so compassionate and tries to give her good advice about how to go about having lots of sex that is totally fun and feels really good with many different people.

Yeah.

You guys with daughters, do you have an opinion about how realistic this is?
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Well, my daughters are 4 and 8, so I'm going to say very unrealistic today.

I dunno, I get a lot of action, maybe I'll be more OK with it... ugh. Maybe not.
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It isn't.

That stuff was wishful thinking and/or propaganda. Maybe a guy who wants to fuck a teenage girl or a woman trying to justify her behavior when she was younger.

And while you hear about stuff like trading naked snapchats or how oral sex was like a greeting to the kids growing up during the Clinton scandal or those friendship bands that showed what sex acts kids have done/would do or whatever other bullshit is out there, the truth is actually a mix of both.

Yes, there are kids who are fucking. However, most kids are still kids. Most girls are still girls who dream of princes and love their boyfriends and yada yada yada.

I know a LOT of fathers of daughters, and to a man they all don't want their daughters to be whores.

So a father explaining to his daughter how she should go get railed regularly probably does happen in the real world, I'd wager its a rare exception.
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Twice I have walked through a room to see a teen girl talking with her Dad about how much she likes sex...

Already bullshit right there. No chick I knew in high school ever voluntarily initiated that conversation with her father.
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Twice I have walked through a room to see a teen girl talking with her Dad about how much she likes sex...

Already bullshit right there. No chick I knew in high school ever voluntarily initiated that conversation with her father.

I think that's the idea. I think the show is supposed to be telling us that oldster parents should be cool with their kids fucking because to do otherwise is neither supportive nor cool. Everyone knows kids are going to be having sex with is both fun and feels really good, so parents should get on board with that and be there for them.

Also this one girl got caught in the act of having sex for the first time by her dad and, because she really enjoyed it, which she said at least 10 times to different people, it caused her dad to die 2 days later and she blamed herself for liking the sex which is fun and felt really good. It was showing us how you shouldn't feel guilty for having sex which is fun and feels good.




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So, what Gordon -> Your son can have all the sex he wants, but girls shouldn't?
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My wife told me the other day that her mom told her to be as safe as possible in high school, but then when she went to college her mom encouraged her to have lots of fun, varied sex.
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TheCatt wrote:So, what Gordon -> Your son can have all the sex he wants, but girls shouldn't?
Absolutely right. As a great man once said, men are the gas and women are the brakes.
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TheCatt wrote:So, what Gordon -> Your son can have all the sex he wants, but girls shouldn't?
All I asked was that men w/daughters share your opinion about this parenting style, aside from that I am just relaying the message and tone of this show that I didn't create.

I want you to start a blog about all this when your daughters hit their teen years, and tell us about how cool and encouraging you are with their sexuality in high school. Seriously.
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Young teen girl on this show, to her TV mother: "I mean I know I have a baby now, and you know I love her so much, but I don't think that's any reason why I should miss that 4 week thing in Europe with my friend so can't you just babysit, PLEEEEEEASE?"
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Heard from two of you, also want to hear from Thib and Paul, both fathers of daughters.
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I think the show is supposed to be telling us that oldster parents should be cool with their kids fucking because to do otherwise is neither supportive nor cool.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I really need an image of Marcy D'arcy doing that.

Anyhow, no. I know more than a few people with kids. Hell, my oldest nephew goes to college and my niece is scratching the driving age. First off, to be fair, my brother hated the chick my nephew was going out with, so that shit goes both ways. But I got no kids and even I know that premise is laughable.
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I don't want my girls to feel shamed about sexual desires. But I don't want them to be a slut either. I'm not sure where I'll be when the girls are older.
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TheCatt wrote:So, what Gordon -> Your son can have all the sex he wants, but girls shouldn't?
Absolutely right. As a great man once said, men are the gas and women are the brakes.
In all seriousness: Really?

There's no shortage of reasons for boys to not want sex either. I turned down at least 10 women for sex, and not due to being in a relationship already.
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TheCatt wrote:
GORDON wrote:
TheCatt wrote:So, what Gordon -> Your son can have all the sex he wants, but girls shouldn't?
Absolutely right. As a great man once said, men are the gas and women are the brakes.
In all seriousness: Really?
Yep. If memory serves it was Woody Harrelson in Zombieland.
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As a great man once said, men are the gas and women are the brakes.


I guess that works to a point.

Nature makes men want to spread their seed, while women want to find a good father for their children. Men are supposed to be whores. I know that's sexist and unfair, but it's true.

I've made my peace with the fact that my daughters will one day be sexual beings. I'll just do my best to give them enough self-respect to maneuver their way through all the guys lying, cheating, stealing, and killing to sleep with them.

On the bright side, violence isn't typically a huge part of the average teenage girl's life. That's a boy issue. Ditto for someone trying to get knocked up to tie a guy down for life.

Plus, for as shitty as it is raising teenage daughters, the payoff is better in adulthood. Most boys move away and/or let their wives dictate their social schedules, and since girls don't really move away and typically stay close to their families we should have big holidays and full access to grandkids.
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I'm reading some female sexuality book, and it's basically saying that women in most species are the sexual initiator.

And that most scientists believe that today's girls will be the most sexual/forward/porn-watching/masterbating women ever. Thanks, Obama.
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The only reason that is wrong because I am one generation too early to enjoy the fruits of that, so I am bitter.
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And that most scientists believe that today's girls will be the most sexual/forward/porn-watching/masterbating women ever.


That's dumb.

Of course they're going to be that way. They're also the generation that's been the most exposed to "everything" and in the most liberal climate in history.

On top of that, they're growing up in a world where they outnumber men, so competition will require them to do more to attract a mate.

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(But it's a trap. There's no such thing as a free fuck.)




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And they have to be careful about taking things too far, because fair or not, do you really want to marry this?

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