It's totally cool for him to tell other people to stfu about their lives and remove their freedom of speech, though. If every homosexual joined a new religion that said gay marriage is ok, would that shut this dude and his ilk the fuck up? Since anything is permissible if god allows, and all.TheCatt wrote:Oh Lord.Amyx, who is Baptist, says he’ll sell to gay people as long as they “behave” and don’t express their opinions in his store.
Marriage Equality
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Fair is fair, since you apparently can't work for Mozilla and express an opinion either. Unless it's the "approved" opinion by our betters.TheCatt wrote:Oh Lord.Amyx, who is Baptist, says he’ll sell to gay people as long as they “behave” and don’t express their opinions in his store.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Mozilla didn't put up a sign that said "No straights allowed."Vince wrote:Fair is fair, since you apparently can't work for Mozilla and express an opinion either. Unless it's the "approved" opinion by our betters.TheCatt wrote:Oh Lord.Amyx, who is Baptist, says he’ll sell to gay people as long as they “behave” and don’t express their opinions in his store.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Sulu pissed at Clarence Thomas.
Polygamist brings suit, maybe. His license has to be denied officially first.
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Polygamist brings suit, maybe. His license has to be denied officially first.
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Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Thinking about this ruling over the weekend. I am thinking the same argument could be made using the same logic to argue that all states should honor and recognize conceal carry permits and issue them in all 50 states. I think you could even make a better legal argument for that now as the 2nd amendment specifically spells out the right to keep and bear arms, where the right to marry doesn't exist at all within the Constitution. So coupling the 2nd amendment with this ruling and it really should be a slam dunk.
That being said, it will never happen. It doesn't matter how legally and logically sound the argument is, the SCOTUS will pretty much contradict their own logic and at that point I think we'd have to realize that the system of government we currently live under is not only no longer a Constitutional Republic, but we no longer even have a system guided by the rule of law. And when people no longer feel that they're being heard or have a system of redress, that's when bad things happen.
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That being said, it will never happen. It doesn't matter how legally and logically sound the argument is, the SCOTUS will pretty much contradict their own logic and at that point I think we'd have to realize that the system of government we currently live under is not only no longer a Constitutional Republic, but we no longer even have a system guided by the rule of law. And when people no longer feel that they're being heard or have a system of redress, that's when bad things happen.
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"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
... where the right to marry doesn't exist at all within the Constitution
... the Court held in a 5–4 decision that the fundamental right to marry is guaranteed to same-sex couples by both the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution.
According to the majority of the nine opinions that matter, yes, it does.
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Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Malcolm wrote:Texas AG asks to get his ass sued.
His theory just got tested and shot the fuck down.
Katie Lang, the clerk in Hood County southwest of Fort Worth, in late June said her Christian beliefs were being violated by issuing licenses to same-sex couples and she would not personally grant them.
My sobriety beliefs are being affected when I have to interact with coworkers of mine who aren't drunk at the moment.
Hood County residents Jim Cato and Joe Stapleton received the license from the clerk's office after filing suit against Lang on Monday.
Boo-yah.
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Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Colorado baker going to court.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
The simplest way around this problem for a cake baker would be to partner with a venue that doesn't accept homosexual weddings (like a big church) and then they don't bake wedding cakes for the public they only bake wedding cakes as a sub-contractor for that venue. If anyone comes directly to them wanting a wedding cake - straight, gay, whomever - they refer them to the venue and don't bake the cake directly for the customer.
That would solve the problem. It would also cut heavily into their business, but that's the cost of using your religion as an excuse to be an asshat.
That would solve the problem. It would also cut heavily into their business, but that's the cost of using your religion as an excuse to be an asshat.
"ATTENTION: Customers browsing porn must hold magazines with both hands at all times!"
Chi-town mayor a dumb-ass.
Your town is setting some insane murder rates, but gay marriage and children born out of wedlock are on your radar.
Your town is setting some insane murder rates, but gay marriage and children born out of wedlock are on your radar.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Toldeo judge wants to get sued and disbarred.
If he's not going to do his job, he shouldn't have it.
Alex Huguelet, executive chief deputy clerk for the municipal court, confirmed the couple came in Monday afternoon and paid the $15 fee to be married before going to the duty courtroom. They returned to the clerk’s office with the sheriff's deputy who works in the court, Ms. Huguelet said, because the judge would not marry them. An employee in the clerk’s office asked the couple if they would like to try to find another judge or get a refund.
If he's not going to do his job, he shouldn't have it.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Walmart's next on the list. At least they haven't completely lost it.
God made you in his image? God must be a dumb-ass.
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The vote came after presiding Commissioner Darrell Skiles filed a letter into the public record, protesting “the U.S. high court’s stamp of approval of what God speaks of as an abomination.”
God made you in his image? God must be a dumb-ass.
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Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Boom.
The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) ruled that existing federal protections against workplace discrimination based on sex also apply to sexual orientation.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Mississippi has to be forcibly drug into the modern era.
Mississippi is the only state in the nation with a law banning same-sex couples from adopting, but given the Supreme Court's recent ruling in favor of same-sex marriage, that could soon change.
...
Furthermore, the Mississippi governor who signed the ban into law 15 years ago has since publicly admitted that he regrets the decision. "I believed at the time this was a principled position based on my faith. But I no longer believe it was right," Ronnie Musgrove wrote in an op-ed published in The Huffington Post. "As I've gotten older, I came to understand that a person's sexual orientation has absolutely nothing to do with their ability to be a good parent."
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Another douchebag denies a marriage license.
Should result in dismissal and loss of pension, along with the shithead county judge executive up there. According to you, God > Supreme Court as far as law is concerned. Good to know.
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James Yates and William Smith Jr. were turned away at the Rowan County clerk's office Thursday morning. An office staffer told them Clerk Kim Davis was on vacation, and the county judge executive also said he couldn't help them.
Davis has refused to issue licenses to same-sex couples despite court rulings and orders. She argues that her right to religious freedom exempts her, citing Christian beliefs.
Should result in dismissal and loss of pension, along with the shithead county judge executive up there. According to you, God > Supreme Court as far as law is concerned. Good to know.
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Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Bitch of a clerk tries to justify her actions with one of the shittiest defenses I've ever heard.
Whoa. I guess religion's an excuse to do anything even if you're directly violating the highest court in the land. My faith says it's ok to shoot people who cut me off in traffic. I can also nut-punch any NE Patriots fan I see because my god tells me it's my duty. I can also rob people at gunpoint when I need money even though it's illegal because god says it's cool.
Because fuck your constituents, you sanctimonious cunt, it's all about you.
Go live with the druids, hippie.
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"The court of appeals did not provide any religious accommodation rights to individuals, which makes little sense because at the end of the day it's individuals that are carrying out the acts of the office," Staver said. "They don't lose their individual constitutional rights just because they are employed in a public office."
Whoa. I guess religion's an excuse to do anything even if you're directly violating the highest court in the land. My faith says it's ok to shoot people who cut me off in traffic. I can also nut-punch any NE Patriots fan I see because my god tells me it's my duty. I can also rob people at gunpoint when I need money even though it's illegal because god says it's cool.
Davis continued to refuse to issue marriage licenses after other judges' rulings. And they suspect she will continue to refuse after this one.
Because fuck your constituents, you sanctimonious cunt, it's all about you.
"Regardless of what any man puts on a piece of paper, the law of nature is not going to change," Davis told the crowd.
Go live with the druids, hippie.
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Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Not that I disagree with you, but you just compared the refusal to shuffle some papers on religious grounds with attempted murder, assault, and armed robbery.Malcolm wrote:Whoa. I guess religion's an excuse to do anything even if you're directly violating the highest court in the land. My faith says it's ok to shoot people who cut me off in traffic. I can also nut-punch any NE Patriots fan I see because my god tells me it's my duty. I can also rob people at gunpoint when I need money even though it's illegal because god says it's cool."The court of appeals did not provide any religious accommodation rights to individuals, which makes little sense because at the end of the day it's individuals that are carrying out the acts of the office," Staver said. "They don't lose their individual constitutional rights just because they are employed in a public office."
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
GORDON wrote:Malcolm wrote:"The court of appeals did not provide any religious accommodation rights to individuals, which makes little sense because at the end of the day it's individuals that are carrying out the acts of the office," Staver said. "They don't lose their individual constitutional rights just because they are employed in a public office."
Whoa. I guess religion's an excuse to do anything even if you're directly violating the highest court in the land. My faith says it's ok to shoot people who cut me off in traffic. I can also nut-punch any NE Patriots fan I see because my god tells me it's my duty. I can also rob people at gunpoint when I need money even though it's illegal because god says it's cool.
Not that I disagree with you, but you just compared the refusal to shuffle some papers on religious grounds with attempted murder, assault, and armed robbery.
Fine, I'll get a more interesting religion ... I mean, uh, my god has given me a new revelation.
My god says people aren't married until I personally approve every single song and movie in their media collection or they conform to my pre-approved published list of acceptable entertainment. Can't have them corrupting the totally subjective morals of future society and running the risk of a Macarena comeback.
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Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."