Aussies say they'll get divorced if the country recognizes same-sex marriages. From the pen of the psycho...
It will not be about the mystery of difference in sexual unity, as children come from gendered dissimilarity. It will not be about building and securing communities into the future… If this is no longer the case, then we no longer wish to be associated with this new definition.
I hope your room has a lot of rubber or padded wallpaper.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
A Cincinnati, Ohio, same-sex couple filed a lawsuit, Obergefell v. Kasich, in the U.S. Southern District of Ohio on July 19, 2013, alleging that the state discriminates against same-sex couples who have married lawfully out-of-state. Because one partner, John Arthur, was terminally ill and suffering from amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), they wanted the Ohio Registrar to identify the other partner, James Obergefell, as his surviving spouse on his death certificate based on their July 11, 2013, Maryland marriage.
Ohio felt like being a dick to a dead guy. Nice.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Scalia is proving himself to be one of the best Justices ever and it has nothing to do with how he rules. He's hilarious.
Addressing the ruling itself, I think this is going to have far reaching implications that most people don't see at this point. The solicitor general has already indicated that they're going to have to look at the tax exempt status of churches that refuse to perform same sex marriages. This ruling has pretty much obliterated the rights of conscious, I'm seeing Nuremberg defense of Superior orders being legitimate now because no, you don't have the right or obligation to defy orders that are immoral.
Greece, please don't screw up the world economy before I get my house sold.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Vince wrote:Scalia is proving himself to be one of the best Justices ever and it has nothing to do with how he rules.
I'm waiting for the day his old ass retires.
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Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Vince wrote:The solicitor general has already indicated that they're going to have to look at the tax exempt status of churches that refuse to perform same sex marriages.
I saw one comment about this, "I can't wait until a mosque is forced to perform a same-sex marriage."
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Well, the same officials that have refused to sue Muslim bakers for refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding will, I'm sure, show the same level of even handedness when dealing with this issue.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Vince wrote:The solicitor general has already indicated that they're going to have to look at the tax exempt status of churches that refuse to perform same sex marriages.
I saw one comment about this, "I can't wait until a mosque is forced to perform a same-sex marriage."
I would laugh my ass off.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
From what I've read so far on the majority decision, there was very little in the way of the Constitution or even "legal argument" that went into this. Mostly just "because we want it and we have the votes and it makes us feel good".
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Vince wrote:From what I've read so far on the majority decision, there was very little in the way of the Constitution or even "legal argument" that went into this. Mostly just "because we want it and we have the votes and it makes us feel good".
Law is, by definition, what 5 of these 9 decreed. All due respect to the founding fathers but "the power to interpret the law as written" may as well read "the power to make a decision and then that's it, we're fucking done, it's over until we decide to bring it up in another decade or two."
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
I doubt it. They discontinued it back in 1890. Honestly I suspect most Mormons considered it more hassle than it was worth unless they has a lot of money.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Penn and Teller's Bullshit, season 3, episode 2: "Family Values."
Additionally, shouldn't they be coming down on widow and widowers with kids equally as hard? It's not intentional deprivation, but the result isn't just equivalent, it's worse. Holy shit, you know what'd go a long way towards making sure no child is ever without a mother or father?
Politico Op-Ed Calls for Legalized Polygamy
Lastly, I remember something about "more freedom, not less" over in the Indiana thread.
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Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Polygamy is the next natural step to take and there's really no reason I can see to not let people that want to do that do it. The ultimate point of marriage is conservation and management of resources (including capital, assets, and time, mostly but not exclusively for the purpose of providing for offspring) and more adults involved makes it more efficient at doing that.
A century ago that role was filled by the extended family which often had multiple generations living under one roof. We don't do that very much anymore and polygamy would be a good replacement for those adults so inclined.
But I won't fight for this one as hard as I did for gay marriage. After all as long as two of the three or more people involved in a polygamous relationship can get married that helps severely limit the damage caused by it not being legal for them all to get married to each other. So the need isn't nearly as pressing because the impact of it's illegality is not nearly as forceful.
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The downside of today is that in a year or two there will be a big spike in gay divorce. All because you can get married doesn't mean you should. But the excitement is going to lead to some bad decisions.
But that shall pass. And the divorce parties will be fabulous!
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Try to find a more unbiased source next time. You're quoting a political organization, not a medical one
The American College of Pediatricians:
* Recognizes that there are absolutes and scientific truths that transcend relative social considerations of the day.
* Recognizes that good medical science cannot exist in a moral vacuum and pledges to promote such science.
* Recognizes the fundamental mother-father family unit, within the context of marriage, to be the optimal setting for the development and nurturing of children and pledges to promote this unit.
* Recognizes the unique value of every human life from the time of conception to natural death and pledges to promote research and clinical practice that provides for the healthiest outcome of the child from conception to adulthood.
TPRJones wrote:The downside of today is that in a year or two there will be a big spike in gay divorce. All because you can get married doesn't mean you should. But the excitement is going to lead to some bad decisions.
But that shall pass. And the divorce parties will be fabulous!
I agree the divorce rates will be high. For whatever reason, the age disparity seems to be a lot higher among gay couples (someone posted a chart on the forum here somewhere). That may have something to do with it. Not sure.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren