Godzilla SPOILERS

[GORDON]

Ok, few things:

1. So... the mutos were originally worms or some other larvae, and the one crawled to the nuke plant and cocooned?

2. Those navy ships sure decided to steam pretty damned close to the big 2000 ton monster that was swimming at 30 knots.

3. Those navy ships sure did decide to clump up together near the Golden Gate Bridge.

4. That Golden Gate Bridge sure did not fall down when 100% of its method of suspension was severed. I hate that. Knowing how a suspension bridge works is like grade school shit. How does someone graduate cgi school and not know that?

5. I liked how the atomic tests in the Pacific were retconned into Godzilla lore.

6. Was the entire quarantined city in Japan supposed to be the muto coverup, or was that plugging the old godzilla movies into this movie?

7. Didn't want to mention this in the nonspoiler thread and spoiler the fact there are MUTOs, but I was getting pissed early and mid-movie when they kept cutting away just as the monsters were going to fight. But, by the end of the movie, I realized the audience would get weary of the non-conclusive fighting early on if they showed the same thing over and over, and then we were able to appreciate the final battles in San Fran.

8. I didn't know Heisenberg would die so early on. They really trailered him up as the lead.

9.

i think that's it for now.

[GORDON]

9. You're telling me they couldn't warn the train that the 300 foot tall monster was coming for their nukes before it was too late?

10. When they obviously had the ability to just helicopter them to the target location in the first place?

11. And a boat doing maybe 15 knots was able to get far enough away from San Fran in 12 minutes that a "megaton" sized nuke would not level the city? It wouldn't even make the bridge out of the Bay in 12 minutes. That was a huge continuity error.

[Leisher]

1. So... the mutos were originally worms or some other larvae, and the one crawled to the nuke plant and cocooned?

Yes

2. Those navy ships sure decided to steam pretty damned close to the big 2000 ton monster that was swimming at 30 knots.

I found that funny too. Especially since at that time they still considered him a threat.

3. Those navy ships sure did decide to clump up together near the Golden Gate Bridge.

My Navy veteran father chortled audibly at that scene. You don't park ships on the water where a 60 story creature is swimming.

4. That Golden Gate Bridge sure did not fall down when 100% of its method of suspension was severed. I hate that. Knowing how a suspension bridge works is like grade school shit. How does someone graduate cgi school and not know that?

CGI school is 1 year long. Also, you're honestly wondering how someone in Hollywood got something wrong?

5. I liked how the atomic tests in the Pacific were retconned into Godzilla lore.

Those looked really good.

6. Was the entire quarantined city in Japan supposed to be the muto coverup, or was that plugging the old godzilla movies into this movie?

MUTO coverup

7. Didn't want to mention this in the nonspoiler thread and spoiler the fact there are MUTOs, but I was getting pissed early and mid-movie when they kept cutting away just as the monsters were going to fight. But, by the end of the movie, I realized the audience would get weary of the non-conclusive fighting early on if they showed the same thing over and over, and then we were able to appreciate the final battles in San Fran.

I think you'll see more fighting in the sequel. The director was afraid of giving people too much too soon. Personally, I think he made the right call.

8. I didn't know Heisenberg would die so early on. They really trailered him up as the lead.

That caught me off guard too.

9. You're telling me they couldn't warn the train that the 300 foot tall monster was coming for their nukes before it was too late?

Worst scene in the movie.

10. When they obviously had the ability to just helicopter them to the target location in the first place?

I assumed they were leading them away...? I didn't get that either.

11. And a boat doing maybe 15 knots was able to get far enough away from San Fran in 12 minutes that a "megaton" sized nuke would not level the city? It wouldn't even make the bridge out of the Bay in 12 minutes. That was a huge continuity error.

I didn't get that either, but I tried to guess that maybe it went off to setup the storyline for the sequel?

My thoughts:
-Aaron Taylor-Johnson was amazing in his range of emotion. Amazing. Seriously, bring out the Oscar. It didn't matter if the scene required happiness, passion, sorrow, anger, fear, etc. he kept the same look on his dull face the whole time. That dude sucked.
-Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch are Magneto's children. There's always been an odd relationship between the two bordering on incest. Aaron Taylor-Johnson is playing Quicksilver and Elizabeth Olsen is playing the Scarlet Witch in Avengers 2. Watching them make out in this film was funny.
-The two kill shots were bad ass, particularly the final one.
-Anyone who criticized the ending and how Godzilla is looked upon as he exits stage right doesn't get it. Have they never seen a fucking Godzilla film?
-Did you notice that every time he entered a scene, it was an ENTRANCE? That first shot of him on land was awesome.
-I did not understand the tsunami though. It wasn't consistent later in the film.
-I think the story telling would have flowed better if instead of following Quicksilver, they instead would have gone for an ensemble cast. I think constant coincidences in films are off putting.
-The admiral and Quicksilver were shameful in their performances, and I've seen that admiral guy do a MUCH better job in other things.
-Brian Cranston was legit amazing. He is at the top of his game right now.
- Ken Wantanabe was the perfect actor to "narrate" everything for us. His dialogue wasn't the best, but I don't think it was supposed to be. I think he was us.
-I LOVED how they explained Godzilla as an Alpha Predator, and nature's way of balancing things. That whole concept was really well done.

[Vince]

10. When they obviously had the ability to just helicopter them to the target location in the first place?

Fear of EMP's from Mothra?

[Malcolm]

I think you'll see more fighting in the sequel. The director was afraid of giving people too much too soon. Personally, I think he made the right call.

I better. As for his giant monster fight blue-balling in this movie: no, hell no, and fuck hell no. You don't need a 10-minute epic battle every time. But cutting away was a bitch move.

That caught me off guard too.

They killed the wrong dude. Watching Walter do his twisted, tortured, over-the-top performance was five million times more entertaining than the alternative...

Aaron Taylor-Johnson was amazing in his range of emotion ... That dude sucked.

Hence my comment above. A few times, I swear to god, I almost thought he was Hayden from Ep II.

The two kill shots were bad ass, particularly the final one.

The first one was ok. The second I couldn't forgive because Godzilla somehow crept up on the chick MUTO like he was Jason Voorhees. Idiocy straight from Jurassic Park.

I LOVED how they explained Godzilla as an Alpha Predator, and nature's way of balancing things. That whole concept was really well done.

Alpha predator? He had two draws and got his ass kicked when going 1 v 2. He only wins after pseudo-Hayden unintentionally runs interference for him as an afterthought. If the MUTOs finish off the fight, they're left with no competition, plenty of nuclear material left, and time to breed again. If the MUTOs don't build their nest next to a convenient ready-made bomb, the game is over.

How about this for a plan? Set out some bait in the middle of nowhere, package it with every horrible caustic, deadly, fatal chemical we know about or a sizable amount of explosive material. Once the MUTO takes the bait, blow the bomb or watch poison eat it from the inside out. Problem fucking solved.

I found that funny too. Especially since at that time they still considered him a threat.

Just a show of force. There's probably a deleted scene somewhere where the prez tries to sanction Godzilla but still isn't willing to take military action against him.



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[Malcolm]

Semi-watching this. Thought occurs:

The MUTOs are chomping down on whatever spare radiation they can find. K, that's their food source, whatever. If Godzilla's their predator, wouldn't he start feeding on the corpses of those things after they died? He goes the entire movie, swimming, stomping, and smashing, taking in nothing as nourishment all the while. Motherfucker's been in hibernation for decades because he's got no prey. Is Godzilla a breatharian?

There's also a spot near the beginning of the movie, when pseudo-Hayden and Walter go into their old house, where you can see "MOTHRA" written on tape on the outside of a terrarium.



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[Leisher]

I think you'll see more fighting in the sequel. The director was afraid of giving people too much too soon. Personally, I think he made the right call.

I better. As for his giant monster fight blue-balling in this movie: no, hell no, and fuck hell no. You don't need a 10-minute epic battle every time. But cutting away was a bitch move.

The next movie is rumored to be "King of All Monsters", so there are sure as shit better be long battles.

The two kill shots were bad ass, particularly the final one.

The first one was ok. The second I couldn't forgive because Godzilla somehow crept up on the chick MUTO like he was Jason Voorhees. Idiocy straight from Jurassic Park.

Godzilla knows kung fu. Read that again.

Now worry about him sneaking up on a monster fighting for her very survival. The key element of most hunters in the animal kingdom is surprise.

I LOVED how they explained Godzilla as an Alpha Predator, and nature's way of balancing things. That whole concept was really well done.

Alpha predator? He had two draws and got his ass kicked when going 1 v 2. He only wins after pseudo-Hayden unintentionally runs interference for him as an afterthought. If the MUTOs finish off the fight, they're left with no competition, plenty of nuclear material left, and time to breed again. If the MUTOs don't build their nest next to a convenient ready-made bomb, the game is over.

That's bullshit. Godzilla could have come back after killing momma bear to burn up the eggs. Boring guy just stole his thunder thanks to convenience.

The MUTOs are chomping down on whatever spare radiation they can find. K, that's their food source, whatever. If Godzilla's their predator, wouldn't he start feeding on the corpses of those things after they died? He goes the entire movie, swimming, stomping, and smashing, taking in nothing as nourishment all the while. Motherfucker's been in hibernation for decades because he's got no prey. Is Godzilla a breatharian?

That would be awesome. Godzilla chomping down on the baddies.

There's also a spot near the beginning of the movie, when pseudo-Hayden and Walter go into their old house, where you can see "MOTHRA" written on tape on the outside of a terrarium.

Nice easter egg.

[Malcolm]

Another thought:

The male MUTO has the EMP ability. What the fuck for? Who was using electronics against his species however many hundreds of millions of years ago? It only seems useful against modern man.

[GORDON]

Another thought:

The male MUTO has the EMP ability. What the fuck for? Who was using electronics against his species however many hundreds of millions of years ago? It only seems useful against modern man.

Good question.... what evolutionary pressure would have encouraged that skill?

Was it the males that stomped the EMP? I think it was. EMP the other males to fuck them up for reproductive privileges with the female?

[Malcolm]

The MUTOs, along with all organic life, seemed to have no response to the EMP. They sure as shit weren't using it against Godzilla, their actual predator, whose ass they were kicking 2v1 anyway. Unless some high-tech aliens were fucking around on Earth back in the day, coevolving with the giant insectoid and reptilian murder machines, it's so inefficient that it's useless.