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Posted: **Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:29 pm**

From here.

Take a few drinks before you read.

1 Franklin Roosevelt (1933-1945)
2 Theodore Roosevelt (1901-1909)
3 Abraham Lincoln (1861-1865)
4 George Washington (1789-1797)
5 Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809)
6 James Madison (1809-1817)
7 James Monroe (1817-1825)
8 Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921)
9 Harry Truman (1945-1953)
10 Dwight Eisenhower (1953-1961)
11 John Kennedy (1961-1963)
12 James Polk (1845-1849)
13 Bill Clinton (1993-2001)
14 Andrew Jackson (1829-1837)
15 Barack Obama (2009-present)
16 Lyndon Johnson (1963-1969)
17 John Adams (1797-1801)
18 Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)
19 John Quincy Adams (1825-1829)
20 Grover Cleveland (1885-1889, 1893-1897)
21 William McKinley (1897-1901)
22 George H.W. Bush (1989-1993)
23 Martin Van Buren (1837-1841)
24 William Howard Taft (1909-1913)
25 Chester Arthur (1881-1885)
26 Ulysses Grant (1869-1877)
27 James Garfield (1881)
28 Gerald Ford (1974-1977)
29 Calvin Coolidge (1923-1929)
30 Richard Nixon (1969-1974)
31 Rutherford Hayes (1877-1881)
32 Jimmy Carter (1977-1981)
33 Zachary Taylor (1849-1850)
34 Benjamin Harrison (1889-1893)
35 William Henry Harrison (1841)
36 Herbert Hoover (1929-1933)
37 John Tyler (1841-1845)
38 Milliard Fillmore (1850-1853)
39 George W. Bush (2001-2009)
40 Franklin Pierce (1853-1857)
41 Warren Harding (1921-1923)
42 James Buchanan (1857-1861)
43 Andrew Johnson (1865-1869)

FDR? No fucking way. Obama before John Adams? No fucking way. Woodrow Wilson in the top 10? No fucking way.

Posted: **Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:44 pm**

The top 3 int hat list are the ones who redefined the Constitution away from individual liberty to "the needs of the many," the most. It says a lot about the people who made the list.

Posted: **Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:45 pm**

The fact Jackson is 14 supports my point.... Jackson moved those dirty, dangerous injuns out of the east coast so that land could be put to better use by the glorious white people.

Of course liberals would support that. The needs of the many.

Posted: **Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:30 pm**

GORDON wrote:The top 3 int hat list are the ones who redefined the Constitution away from individual liberty to "the needs of the many," the most. It says a lot about the people who made the list.

Of the top 10 ...

2 Theodore Roosevelt (1901-1909)
3 Abraham Lincoln (1861-1865)
4 George Washington (1789-1797)
5 Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809)
6 James Madison (1809-1817)
7 James Monroe (1817-1825)
10 Dwight Eisenhower (1953-1961)

... I'd hear arguments for those folk. Andrew Jackson is easily in my top ten.

From 30 onwards, it's arguable, as well. Except putting Dubyah down below Nixon, Hayes, Carter, & Hoover. If you swapped Dubyah & Nixon, though, maybe.

It's the ones in between that are really out of fucking whack.

Edited By Malcolm on 1278012670

Posted: **Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:46 pm**

The Obama ranking alone proves this list is complete horseshit and based on personal political ideology rather than facts.

I mean, Bush Jr at 39 and Obama at 15?

First, how can they accurately judge a president who hasn't even fulfilled one term?

Second, how can they rate him so high considering how divided he's made the country, all the promises he's broken, the out of control spending, etc.?

Third, if political experts, particularly pissed off lefties, call Obama the "third term of Bush Jr.", then how can he be at 15?

Posted: **Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:49 pm**

It's surprising that Reagan is so high.

Posted: **Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:10 pm**

Leisher wrote:The Obama ranking alone proves this list is complete horseshit and based on personal political ideology rather than facts.

I mean, Bush Jr at 39 and Obama at 15?

First, how can they accurately judge a president who hasn't even fulfilled one term?

Second, how can they rate him so high considering how divided he's made the country, all the promises he's broken, the out of control spending, etc.?

Third, if political experts, particularly pissed off lefties, call Obama the "third term of Bush Jr.", then how can he be at 15?

Stop oppressing the helpless, disenfranchised minority, you imperialist fascist.

Posted: **Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:13 pm**

thibodeaux wrote:It's surprising that Reagan is so high.

Yeah, but after Clin-ton, B. Rock, & JFK. Somehow above LBJ, though.

Those three represent all the most recent donkeys in office.

Also, the more I think about it, the more Washington takes #1 by a landslide. A rather shitty military leader, but possibly one of the finest political leaders we've ever'd.

Edited By Malcolm on 1278015224

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