The season might not happen.
Based on that article, which lists what's been going on and what the owners have offered, I'd really like to see what the players want.
NFL 2011
I think the players are going to break before anything drastic happens. There are already stories of players hitting others up for loans and a lockout hasn't even started yet. Also didn't Montana cross the picket line? If players who are completely secure financially didn't stick to their guns I don't see the players who make way less and aren't as secure not taking what the owners offer in the end.
They talk a big game now but unless that nflpa friendly judge gets involved and makes some more big decisions I see the players cracking.
Fans watched replacement players before I think they will do it again.
They talk a big game now but unless that nflpa friendly judge gets involved and makes some more big decisions I see the players cracking.
Fans watched replacement players before I think they will do it again.
Adrian Peterson, the multimillionaire who plays a game for a living, thinks he's a slave.
What a fucking jackass.
Here's a sample of his intelligence:
I'm not even sure half of that is coherent.
If Adrian Peterson is a modern day slave, then I'd be happy to trade him my freedom for his slave status.
What a fucking jackass.
Here's a sample of his intelligence:
“It’s modern-day slavery, you know?” Peterson said. “People kind of laugh at that, but there are people working at regular jobs who get treated the same way, too. With all the money . . . the owners are trying to get a different percentage, and bring in more money.”
I'm not even sure half of that is coherent.
If Adrian Peterson is a modern day slave, then I'd be happy to trade him my freedom for his slave status.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
I read that yesterday. I can't believe he actually said that.
What a PR nightmare the Players Union is dealing with. The owners have 32 guys who have had experience in corporate board rooms and who are already filthy rich, and can speak about the issue setting emotions at the door.
The PU has 1,000 young, passionate guys who generally speak based on emotion and feeling. They used to get all their good talking points from their team's PR people, who they can't even legally talk to any more.
The longer the lockout, the worse it will end up for the players.
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What a PR nightmare the Players Union is dealing with. The owners have 32 guys who have had experience in corporate board rooms and who are already filthy rich, and can speak about the issue setting emotions at the door.
The PU has 1,000 young, passionate guys who generally speak based on emotion and feeling. They used to get all their good talking points from their team's PR people, who they can't even legally talk to any more.
The longer the lockout, the worse it will end up for the players.
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Maybe the union ought to tell its member to shut the fuck up if they want to continue buying diamond earrings instead of making fries at Burger King.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Former and future players are suing the NFL to end the lockout.
The problem with their logic is that they're claiming the NFL is the only ticket in town. That's simply not the case. There's the UFL (or whatever that other league is called), remnants of the AFL, the CFL, and semi-pro teams around the country. Also, anyone suing that didn't just graduate college could stay in school.
Plus, where is it written that because you played football in college, you have the right to play in the NFL? In what part of the constitution does it force privately owned businesses to give me a job? Can I sue IBM or Microsoft and force them to give me a job?
I think everything is going to hinge on the judge ruling on whether the NFLPA is still acting as a union or not. If the NFL wins that case, I think we'll see a resolution sooner rather than later. Or the NFLPA will really be stupid, decertify for real, and we'll see scabs.
The problem with their logic is that they're claiming the NFL is the only ticket in town. That's simply not the case. There's the UFL (or whatever that other league is called), remnants of the AFL, the CFL, and semi-pro teams around the country. Also, anyone suing that didn't just graduate college could stay in school.
Plus, where is it written that because you played football in college, you have the right to play in the NFL? In what part of the constitution does it force privately owned businesses to give me a job? Can I sue IBM or Microsoft and force them to give me a job?
I think everything is going to hinge on the judge ruling on whether the NFLPA is still acting as a union or not. If the NFL wins that case, I think we'll see a resolution sooner rather than later. Or the NFLPA will really be stupid, decertify for real, and we'll see scabs.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Therefore, college players awaiting next month’s draft are not represented by the union and can’t be faulted for its decertification. However they are, Hausfeld argues, being affected by the lockout.
“These players have an antitrust claim,” Hausfeld said. “They’ve essentially staked the pursuit of a career on being eligible for the NFL.
You're INSANE. The crux of your argument is "they wasted the last few years of their life preparing for something that just went bust." Now, they get to ... sue for that? Guess they should've chosen that career field a bit more wisely.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
And while many in the union look at the high-risk loans as a serious point of concern, Sherard Rogers -- who acts a financial advisor to a number of NFL players -- believes the loans are legitimate and are simply an example of supply meeting demand.
"There’s a market, there’s a demand, and I’m helping an industry that I benefit from also – helping them to better themselves and to make a difference," Rogers said. "That’s the way I look at it.
Spoken like a true loan shark. If I'd been earning six figures for a year or two, I'd've socked some of that away. For the average NFL player, you never know when a career ending knee blowout is going to ruin your day.
EDIT : Hmm, how long before they start selling ad space on the player jerseys?
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Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Madden 2012 cover...
Wow...an ex-con animal abuser whose inclusion will spark protests or a white running back who had a great half of a season and plays in the cursed (small) market of Cleveland.
The best part is that it comes down to fan voting, and who do you go with?
Do you pick Hillis because Cleveland deserves some bright spot in sports or because Vick doesn't deserve it or simply because it'd be funny to see the only talent on their roster get hit with the Madden jinx?
Do you pick Vick because he deserves the jinx or because you don't want Cleveland to be hit with it?
EA executives have to be pissed about this final two.
Wow...an ex-con animal abuser whose inclusion will spark protests or a white running back who had a great half of a season and plays in the cursed (small) market of Cleveland.
The best part is that it comes down to fan voting, and who do you go with?
Do you pick Hillis because Cleveland deserves some bright spot in sports or because Vick doesn't deserve it or simply because it'd be funny to see the only talent on their roster get hit with the Madden jinx?
Do you pick Vick because he deserves the jinx or because you don't want Cleveland to be hit with it?
EA executives have to be pissed about this final two.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Yeah, they'll get publicity from it, but it'll all be negative. I know "any publicity is good publicity", but I don't think that's true. I think you can overdo things, and be put into a bad light. Lots of examples of that, ask sharks.
Madden is so damn big, very few people are unaware of its existence. At this point, negative publicity equaling good publicity is bullshit. It's not going to get them extra sales.
P.S. How fantastic would Madden 12 be with Vick on the cover and a locked out season?
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Madden is so damn big, very few people are unaware of its existence. At this point, negative publicity equaling good publicity is bullshit. It's not going to get them extra sales.
P.S. How fantastic would Madden 12 be with Vick on the cover and a locked out season?
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"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
The game would largely consist of you creating an NFL player, and then exporting yourself to Fight Night, FIFA, or Grand Theft Auto.Leisher wrote:Yeah, they'll get publicity from it, but it'll all be negative. I know "any publicity is good publicity", but I don't think that's true. I think you can overdo things, and be put into a bad light. Lots of examples of that, ask sharks.
Madden is so damn big, very few people are unaware of its existence. At this point, negative publicity equaling good publicity is bullshit. It's not going to get them extra sales.
P.S. How fantastic would Madden 12 be with Vick on the cover and a locked out season?
Tom Zbikowski, Chad 85, Take Your Pick
Vick being a face for a sport that's heading to a federal judge for arbitration is beautiful, poetic irony in motion.
Madden NFL 2012 : From Gridiron to Courtroom
Ask Madden for legal maneuver...
"Well, I'd do a reverse end run around the owners and hire some high-priced lawyers to launch an anti-monopoly offensive motion. That'll push 'em back and let you open up some room for the Hail Mary bargaining ploy later on."
Madden NFL 2012 : From Gridiron to Courtroom
Ask Madden for legal maneuver...
"Well, I'd do a reverse end run around the owners and hire some high-priced lawyers to launch an anti-monopoly offensive motion. That'll push 'em back and let you open up some room for the Hail Mary bargaining ploy later on."
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
As many as 70 “mid-tier” NFL players have committed to working with a law firm to demand a seat at the NFL lockout negotiating table, according to the Sports Business Journal. The players reportedly don’t feel their interests are being properly represented by the current NFL Players Association leadership.
Yeah there is no doubt going to be a 2011 season if the players can't even agree with each other.
Yeah there is no doubt going to be a 2011 season if the players can't even agree with each other.
The NBA strike/lockout is going to be far worse.
Those owners aren't making money, they're losing it, and their players make more...
Those owners aren't making money, they're losing it, and their players make more...
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell