The Online Encyclopedia War

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If you haven't heard, Grokipedia launched today.

The goal is (paraphrasing): "the most unbiased, factual compendium of knowledge in human history".

It's open source and has built in fact checking. Users cannot edit articles, but can make suggestions on them.

It shows full edit history for every article.

It is obviously a direct competitor to Wikipedia who has not exactly set a high bar.

Let's be honest, Wikipedia's days are probably numbered. It's not disputable that the editorial team there is very left leaning and edit pages as such. That's been proven a million times over, both in what they write/allow, and their own personal beliefs from their X/BlueSky/FB/IG/etc. accounts. Their articles also include their own biases that aren't politically based. Additionally, they're an unacceptable source to cite for any paper at any level of school, and they're constantly begging for money.

Most importantly, humans constantly trying to update hundreds of thousands of pages versus an AI doing the same...

Here's some examples of differences followed by some tech guy who did an analysis and found both to have bias.

Wikipedia:
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Grokipedia:
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Wikipedia:
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Grokipedia:
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Wikipedia:
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Grokipedia:
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Here's a pretty unbiased review of both that calls them both biased, but What I'm most excited about is that this is another step towards Civil War II. Each side has their own political party, media sources, social media sites, fact checkers, and now online knowledge source.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
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What's the difference between "partisan" and "ideologically tilted"? Cuz this sounds like horseshit
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Ask him. I was thrown by that too.
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Wikipedia doesn't need your money as badly as they claim.
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Jimmy did an interview with someone on this topic within the past few months. There are more details, etc
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Related, someone on the Twitters defending Wiki said their accuracy is around 85%. (I forget the source he cited.) That's complete shit if correct. An encyclopedia should be 98% accurate at worst. That includes 1% for things we believe are fact, but are later corrected. No wonder schools don't accept it as a source.
TheCatt wrote: Tue Dec 09, 2025 12:29 pm Jimmy did an interview with someone on this topic within the past few months. There are more details, etc
I'm sure there are excuses, and yes, you've got to pay people ($114M) and you have to have hosting ($3.4M). However, a lot of their money is going to political causes. Far left ones, of course.

This place breaks it all down based on Wiki's own financial documents.

We have a far left and a far right encyclopedia. The division in our society continues to grow. Ironic considering "One Source of Truth" is such a hot topic in IT these days.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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