What will be next?

[Leisher]

The problem with polyamory.

I think the next thing is going to be normalizing relationships with AI/sex bots. Lars and the Real Girl in real life.

My wife and I discussed opening things up. She said she'd probably get too jealous, and maybe want to kill the other woman/women. I dunno, I'm a little more optimistic. My wife and I have a pretty solid relationship/bond. I think getting something else from other people is probably fine. It's definitely all over the place these days.

I would advise against that. Is the nut worth losing your relationship with your wife? I don't think you're doing a full lifestyle change, ala Gordon, and I've heard almost exclusively bad things about such experiences. To clarify, the moment is good, but the aftermath isn't. Your wife isn't lying about her feelings, believe her.

nd modern polyamory is different from historical polyamory for a number of reasons.

I think you're right financially. The economy has made such relationships make far more sense. Also, the pussification of men has also lent itself to this lifestyle.

However, human nature is human nature and polyamory will typically fail there. Men will return and "more than one male" polyamory will be one of the first causalities.

Of course, a household with multiple couples that do not interact...except for legally...could also skew the numbers. This could definitely become a thing with many "Lars" deciding to buy a big house to save money.

[GORDON]

1. I've never regretted my divorce for longer than a moment. I mourn the loss of a 20+ year relationship, that's sad, but that ended long before the first divorce discussion. But we needed to be separate.

2. If you have a serious partner, and think about opening things up, you've got to be 100% sure you don't have that jealousy gene.... or at the very least, don't feel possessive of your partner. There is no "let's try it once and see if I can handle it...." because, you can't. Even once is going to make a mental image you'll never shake. If you feel any flavor of ownership of your partner, seeing her share intimacy with someone else is going to break your brain. Unless you have that weird cuck gene, which is a whole nother bucket of possums.

I think as I've gotten older, and (feel I) have had more than my fair share of stress and hardships, I've been slowly burning out the "deep emotions" part of my brain. A defense mechanism, in a way.... if I can rid myself of the logic-overwhelming emotions, I can think clearer and sleep better. I don't NEED to have a partner, in order to feel complete..... I know many, many people who can't fathom that. Their worth is only as high as the presence of a life partner. That's so strange, to me. BUT................. burning out my deeper emotions has had the added benefit of no longer feeling like I own anyone. And thus, no emotional trauma when I see them with someone else.

And that's why going poly won't work for most people. No actual control over their thoughts and emotions.

[TheCatt]

I would advise against that. Is the nut worth losing your relationship with your wife? I don't think you're doing a full lifestyle change, ala Gordon, and I've heard almost exclusively bad things about such experiences. To clarify, the moment is good, but the aftermath isn't. Your wife isn't lying about her feelings, believe her.

I do.

If you have a serious partner, and think about opening things up, you've got to be 100% sure you don't have that jealousy gene

Sure. My jealous/possessiveness is low. I trust her. I want her to get whatever she wants. Her pleasure is my pleasure and such. I was different in my 20s and 30s. We first discussed swinging back in my 30s, but we never acted on it.

Unless you have that weird cuck gene,

I've read about that on the reddit forums, and man, I just do not get it. But to each their own.

[Leisher]

I do.

Good.

I've read about that on the reddit forums, and man, I just do not get it. But to each their own.

Ditto.

[TheCatt]

[TheCatt]

Visited my best friend from college this past weekend in DC and his girlfriend. She is a raging bisexual who loves sex. A good friend of mine from NC came with me. We all got drunk the first night and she told so many stories that my friend had only ever hinted at. She had pegged my friends ex-wife, brought home girls she picked up for the 3somes, etc.

It was pretty interesting and they both seem very happy.

I told my wife the stories when I got home, and she asked if I was jealous. Honestly, not really. Like if my wife brought home someone occasionally for us to both okay with? Fun, hot. But it just sounded like too much for me overall with everything else. They are members of a BDSM club. C and I had planned on going to one in NYC to feel jt out, but my friend and gf offered to be our tour guide at their local club, so we are going to do that instead.

The 2nd night, I went to bed around midnight, and the other 3 stayed up. The GF said to my NC friend "I don't know your wife, but she must be pretty cool to be married to you. Bring her up, I want to fuck you both."

I don't know if my friends wife would go for that. And I was a tiny bit disappointed to not be invited I guess we already agreed to explore a club with them.

[GORDON]

Leisher better say "gross" or I'm going to start thinking he wants to be the 3rd with you and C.

[TheCatt]

Leisher better say "gross" or I'm going to start thinking he wants to be the 3rd with you and C.

We already know he does.

To be fair, my stories haven't involved me actually doing anything. And the ground rules for the club are probably going to be along the lines of "voyeur only" for us.

[Leisher]

We already know he does.

Me showing up to Catt's house (Not just the opening, but the whole clip):


Let me know where to send the gift basket.

To be fair, my stories haven't involved me actually doing anything.

Exactly, it's not gross yet.

And the ground rules for the club are probably going to be along the lines of "voyeur only" for us.

It is my understanding that this is pretty standard.

Honestly, the GF Catt described is interesting. She's likely been seriously hurt in the past, which is why she is so sexually aggressive, but there is a minute chance she could be a unicorn like Nina Hartley. The pegging thing and being sexually dominant is probably about far more than sexual satisfaction though.

[TheCatt]

Me showing up to Catt's house (Not just the opening, but the whole clip):

lolol. We do watch porn together! That gift basket better be awesome.

[TheCatt]

We went to a BDSM festival today. We go back later for more.

We wore plain clothes cuz we weren't sure if a demo we were going to was participatory or not. It was not.

But we walked in and I felt like the most vanilla person on the entire planet. So much gender play, animal play, littles (eww), etc.

[GORDON]

BDSM parties are the weirdest things. It's hard for me to wrap my head around the mindsets.

As I tell my partner, I can do the things, and follow the scripts, but I never "feel" it, and will always be a tourist in that world.

[TheCatt]

I get light pain play. I don't get extreme pain. I get restraints and ropes, to an extent. But holy shit, one person got tied up and untied and it took more than 30 minutes. I don't understand the littles thing. I don't really get furries. I get dom/sub stuff. I'm not the hottest dude around, but so many people seem to eat their feelings. My wife estimated that about 3% of the people were not fat. But maybe there were more and we just couldn't see them behind the other people.

There was a burlesqueish show with 5 performers. 4 of the 5 were trans. They were highly energetic. Good shows. Christina found the MC highly annoying. Too yappy.

The demo we went to was erotic grappling. I get that.

We just watched, no participation.

Music on the dance floor was solid.

[GORDON]

I've seen fire play, I've seen needles woven through skin, I've seen testicles stapled to thighs. I've seen extreme insertions. I am not interested in any of that.

95% very physically unattractive, by my standards. Hottest women were all with fat, older, possibly rich guys.

I saw an acquaintance absolutely giddy because her partner decided to tie her up and beat her in the middle of the crowd.

What made me laugh out loud was when the popular, whippy guy in the kilt pulled out a stop sign and beat a woman with it while she moaned.