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Promotion/Relegation for P5 schools?
Interesting, but I'd need to see more details of how it would work.
Not sure the conferences would be willing for their members to be relegated though.
Interesting, but I'd need to see more details of how it would work.
Not sure the conferences would be willing for their members to be relegated though.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Guess what, Oregon St? You got relegated. Suck it.Leisher wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:50 am Promotion/Relegation for P5 schools?
Interesting, but I'd need to see more details of how it would work.
Not sure the conferences would be willing for their members to be relegated though.
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I was coming to say the same thing.
They're getting completely outclassed in every possible way.
Colorado's safety is Sanders. He related to Deion? Based on the way he "ole" tackles I'm guessing yes.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Well, it's a win.
We certainly miss CJ Stroud.
Notre Dame's coaches helped a lot. An incomplete pass on their final clock killing drive, and then this:
We certainly miss CJ Stroud.
Notre Dame's coaches helped a lot. An incomplete pass on their final clock killing drive, and then this:
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Iowa had the same number of turnovers as first downs (four)
Penn State scored just two fewer points than Iowa had offensive plays (31 to 33)
Penn State had more rushing attempts (57) than Iowa had passing yards (56)
Iowa’s total rushing yards (20) were nearly matched on one rush by Penn State running back Nicholas Singleton (19 yard long)
Iowa had six total fumbles (four lost)
Penn State QB Drew Allar nearly had as many passing attempts (37) as Iowa QB Cade McNamara had passing yards
Iowa posted a total of 20 rushing yards on 17 attempts
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That Iowa thing made me laugh because Iowa's color scheme and culture is based on the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Steelers also struggle with offense.
I know Kentucky is in the SEC, so Bama and/or Georgia are on their schedule. UNC and Duke probably play one another and/or FSU/Clemson? Who does Kansas play that's good? Texas?
I was kind of surprised OSU won this weekend. I still do not think super highly of this team's chances. Still, they should go undefeated now aside from PSU and TTUN.
I'm also not really sold on TTUN this year. I know they returned a bunch, but they've looked kind of shitty. Let's see if Harbaugh turns it around now that he's back.
FYI, 12 undefeated teams lost this weekend.
I know Kentucky is in the SEC, so Bama and/or Georgia are on their schedule. UNC and Duke probably play one another and/or FSU/Clemson? Who does Kansas play that's good? Texas?
I was kind of surprised OSU won this weekend. I still do not think super highly of this team's chances. Still, they should go undefeated now aside from PSU and TTUN.
I'm also not really sold on TTUN this year. I know they returned a bunch, but they've looked kind of shitty. Let's see if Harbaugh turns it around now that he's back.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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This is a really interesting topic and something I think about a lot on Sundays when X doesn't do well as QB for X. Point being, not just OSU QBs.
Too bad that graphic doesn't go back further. For example, where's Tom Tupa? He had the longest career because he was also a punter!
FYI, Joe Burrow says he wouldn't be the QB he is without his time at OSU, but nobody wants to give OSU credit for him except him.
Anyway, this is one of the most perplexing things in all of sports. Also, one of the most unfair ways to try and criticize a college program. "Ha ha, you can't produce NFL QBs." "Damn, you're right, but our QBs still put up 50 on your team and we're in the title picture annually, so..."
Honestly, this is the argument of dumb fans and recruiting pitches. It's also clickbait for media outlets. Talking about OSU gets eyeballs, more so than any other team. For example, NFL scouts have long said Bama players are bad picks more often than not. Why? Because they've already peaked. They've been coached to their top level. Where's the graphic for that?
Realistically, I believe the system is as important to success as the player. Yes, talent can make plays, but overall, talent can be squashed by a system that doesn't fit your skill set. Cowherd just had a breakdown of Chicago being the worst run team in the whole NFL and how they were destroying any chance Fields had for success by focusing on defense and not building an offense for his skills. Put him in Baltimore and he could be Lamar 2.0.
This is why some QBs are so good in college, but terrible in the NFL. Because success or failure in college doesn't translate to success or failure in the pros. Tom Brady wasn't exactly a world beater in college. Neither was Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, and the list goes on forever.
I think one thing that is never factored in, but plays a massive role, is money. Look at Brady and Mahomes. They came from middle class or higher homes. They didn't want for anything, so their drive was to be great. I think CJ Stroud also fits in this category. I believe his family isn't poor. Dwayne and Terrelle came from poor backgrounds and once they got money they had scandals and posses. They weren't driven to be great. They were driven to get paid.
Cardale started two games and then couldn't beat out JT (not on the list or in the NFL) for the starting job the following year. I don't think it's fair to even put him on this list. Although going back to the system thing, I always thought he went to the wrong team. He belonged in Pittsburgh. Big Ben was his comp and he would have fit right into that offense.
Troy Smith is honestly the one I don't get the most. Smart kid, loads of talent, worked hard, and actually read defenses. He wasn't just a system kid. So why didn't he pan out?
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In other news, MSU has fired Tucker. Begin the lawsuit!
Too bad that graphic doesn't go back further. For example, where's Tom Tupa? He had the longest career because he was also a punter!

FYI, Joe Burrow says he wouldn't be the QB he is without his time at OSU, but nobody wants to give OSU credit for him except him.
Anyway, this is one of the most perplexing things in all of sports. Also, one of the most unfair ways to try and criticize a college program. "Ha ha, you can't produce NFL QBs." "Damn, you're right, but our QBs still put up 50 on your team and we're in the title picture annually, so..."
Honestly, this is the argument of dumb fans and recruiting pitches. It's also clickbait for media outlets. Talking about OSU gets eyeballs, more so than any other team. For example, NFL scouts have long said Bama players are bad picks more often than not. Why? Because they've already peaked. They've been coached to their top level. Where's the graphic for that?
Realistically, I believe the system is as important to success as the player. Yes, talent can make plays, but overall, talent can be squashed by a system that doesn't fit your skill set. Cowherd just had a breakdown of Chicago being the worst run team in the whole NFL and how they were destroying any chance Fields had for success by focusing on defense and not building an offense for his skills. Put him in Baltimore and he could be Lamar 2.0.
This is why some QBs are so good in college, but terrible in the NFL. Because success or failure in college doesn't translate to success or failure in the pros. Tom Brady wasn't exactly a world beater in college. Neither was Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, and the list goes on forever.
I think one thing that is never factored in, but plays a massive role, is money. Look at Brady and Mahomes. They came from middle class or higher homes. They didn't want for anything, so their drive was to be great. I think CJ Stroud also fits in this category. I believe his family isn't poor. Dwayne and Terrelle came from poor backgrounds and once they got money they had scandals and posses. They weren't driven to be great. They were driven to get paid.
Cardale started two games and then couldn't beat out JT (not on the list or in the NFL) for the starting job the following year. I don't think it's fair to even put him on this list. Although going back to the system thing, I always thought he went to the wrong team. He belonged in Pittsburgh. Big Ben was his comp and he would have fit right into that offense.
Troy Smith is honestly the one I don't get the most. Smart kid, loads of talent, worked hard, and actually read defenses. He wasn't just a system kid. So why didn't he pan out?
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In other news, MSU has fired Tucker. Begin the lawsuit!
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Buckeye Twitter is buzzing with news of Clemson and FSU to the B1G.
Nooooooooooooooo!!!!!
Nooooooooooooooo!!!!!
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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If anyone is watching the Kent State game, I'm in the Kent stands on the 23 yard line next to the stairs going down. I'm the one with the huge junk rooting for Miami.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."