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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:27 pm
by GORDON
I will say nothing about this movie that stars Meril Streep, Robert Redford, and Tom Cruise except that in advertisements it is endorsed by a Daily Kos contributor.
http://bdroppings.blogspot.com/2007/10/lions-for-lambs-plugged-by.html
But it's probably a really good movie about the war in Afghanistan.
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:37 pm
by GORDON
And apparently it is so bad it could sink the production company.
http://www.nypost.com/seven....417.htm
But... but... the Kos guy loved it...
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:50 pm
by Leisher
Yahoo Users average rating = D.
Ouch. The VAST majority of the reviews bash the living shit out of this film. The recurring complaint is that they're sick of Hollywood pushing its politics instead of making entertaining movies.
However, for contrast here's the message from those who loved it:
If you want to see a good movie, and you have an OPEN mind (not a closed, patriot on auto-pilot mind) go see this movie. If you think that the war was right and is just, you will go into this movie and hate it.
Huh? So a person is considered closed minded unless they agree with you? And they're supposed to make their judgment about an actual current event based on a fictional work? Gotta love that logic.
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:58 pm
by Malcolm
He is relating directly there begin open-minded w\ liking the film & being in favour of war the war w\ hating the film. Thus, some basic transitivity yields, if you are open-minded, you hate the war. Rarely, outside high school rhetoric courses, does one see so many logical mistakes in so few sentences; shit, you'd've to work at it.
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:32 pm
by GORDON
You KNOW you made a shit movie when it's all "america sucks" and not even the reviewer at The Onion likes it.
http://www.avclub.com/content/cinema/lions_for_lambs
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:01 am
by Malcolm
Maybe if someone less batshit insane than Tom Cruise was involved, it might be doing better.
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:31 am
by GORDON
I thought it was just because the rest of the country doesn't hate America as much as hollywood does.
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:48 am
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:I thought it was just because the rest of the country doesn't hate America as much as hollywood does.
Yes, cos that's stopped films from being popular in the past.
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:19 pm
by GORDON
No idea what you're saying.
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:28 pm
by GORDON
Lileks' take:
It is interesting that the movie (Transformers) made 403492 grillion dollars, whereas the Cruise / Redford / Streep oration about War Being Bad averaged thirty-seven cents per theater. As many have noted elsewhere at great length, anti-war movies are unpopular. The theories vary: the public is tired of the war, the movies are lousy, the public doesn’t want to see Uncle Sam portrayed as the sort of guy who can’t wait to hook up a Diehard to the harbls of an innocent exchange student rounded up in the Bushilter Mandatory Scoop-Up-The-Dusky Initiative. Both sides will probably come to rest on the last answer, but for different reasons. One side takes cruel comfort in the fact that Americans CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH, as another Cruise movie so memorably accused, and the other side is convinced that Hollywood is so besotted by the vapors in its ideological pleasure-dome it cannot conceive of making a war movie that isn’t a glass of warm spinach juice – or, if it’s slam-bang rah-rah in concept, is laden down with hints and tics and cues designed to insulate the producers from the inevitable protests from all corners. You can almost hear the sighs of a producer looking at an incredible script about the drive to Baghdad, a straight-forward story that complete with straight-ahead, matter-of-fact drama: it’s a great script, but my wife’s all hooked up with Code Pink. Not that I care; they’re a bunch of nuts. But I can’t stand the people who think they’re a bunch of nuts for reasons different than mine. Also I’m going to get CAIR writing letters to the editor, and my kid reads that paper. Well, she reads it online. Maybe. I don’t know. It would probably show up on MySpacebook or something. But no one’s going to get hard looks if Tom Cruise comes out against torture, right? I mean, who’s gonna boo that at Cannes?
(Thank you, Mr. Strawman! Thank you for stating so succinctly what I suspect and believe. Remarkable.)
It’s an old subject, and I was moaning about this years ago. And I probably said the same thing: where’s our “Casablanca”?
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:14 pm
by Malcolm
Yeah, when is some wise-ass gonna try to remake Casablanca?