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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:54 am
by thibodeaux
http://libertyandsuch.com/manager-of-fpsrussia-found-murdered/
Keith Ratliff, the manager of FPS Russia, the 3rd most popular youtube channel was found dead yesterday, tied up to a chair and shot in the back of the head.

The radio and media at large isn’t mentioning the exact details, however this is a very important thing. FPS Russia is a driving force in the pro-gun movement concerning youth. The videos published are very pro-gun, and reach literally millions of impressionable youth showing them that firearms just aren’t for people in movies or video games.

From the details, it was not a robbery turned murder. His guns were still left in the house. So, why was he murdered mob style?

This represents a second well known player in the firearms industry to be killed in the past week. Only a few days ago, John Novseke was killed in a somewhat mysterious car crash.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:56 am
by GORDON
That's not the "Have good day" guy, is it?

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:51 am
by Malcolm
It's the Russian mob. They kill people just so they don't fall out of practice.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:11 am
by GORDON
Heh.... why punch the bore when you can just scrape out the carbon with another round?

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:16 pm
by Leisher
The FPS Russia guys seem to be handling it pretty well...

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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:32 pm
by GORDON
GORDON wrote:That's not the "Have good day" guy, is it?
It's "Have nice day." And I think it is.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:59 pm
by Leisher
What is the "Have nice day" thing?

The guy who was killed was a weapons manager for FPS Russia. Although, all the articles keep showing the "face" of FPS Russia who is alive and well, as you can see in the video.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:34 pm
by GORDON
I don't know a lot about it, I just know the guy in the videos was hilarious, Russian, and ended his vids with a broken English "Have nice day." It was sort of a thing. i have seen tshirts that say, "Have nice day."

So, that wasn't the guy who got killed? I assumed the vid you posted happened before the murder.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:49 pm
by Leisher
No, I posted it because it was posted on January 6th, and has the caption that it's the guys mourning the loss of a friend.

One of the comments from Thib's link points out that the guy in the videos in NOT Keith Ratliff. Hang on, I'll dig it up.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:51 pm
by Leisher

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:54 pm
by GORDON
Ah, that aint who I was thinking of.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:10 pm
by TPRJones
Leisher wrote:No, I posted it because it was posted on January 6th, and has the caption that it's the guys mourning the loss of a friend.
It was likely filmed before whatever happened, because I think the guy on the far right is Keith Ratliff. But I could be wrong.

Also, captions can be updated, so it may even have been posted before he knew and then updated later.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:33 pm
by Malcolm
Franklin County Sheriff Stevie Thomas told local media that 32-year-old Keith Ratliff died of a single gunshot wound to the head and that his body had been sitting for some time before it was discovered.

The Russian mob hit a gun dealer in GA? They trying to clear out competitors or did he stiff someone on a deal and have the debt passed on to someone who decided to collect?

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:53 pm
by Leisher
There's a thread of comments off of Thib's link where people are bashing the deceased. They're saying that he was committing fraud on people and companies.

So murder, but for money, not some anti-gun conspiracy.




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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:44 am
by thibodeaux
Double WTF
On Friday, January 4, the owner of Noveske Rifleworks, 36-year-old John Noveske, was killed in a single-vehicle accident on Highway 260 in Oregon.

According to the Oregon State Police, at approximately 9:13 p.m., the Toyota Land Cruiser driven by Noveske left the road near El Camino Way, and slammed into two boulders. The vehicle rolled and Noveske was ejected. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:10 am
by Malcolm
Got to wait for tox reports and vehicle forensics on that one.