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Calexit

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:42 pm
by Leisher
They'll be voting on it.

This is hilarious and the pinnacle of hypocrisy.

Re: Calexit

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:55 pm
by GORDON
Heh, bye. On the one hand, they will probably be fine, they have plenty of industry. On the other hand, it will be funny to see them actually doing something about their borders when they don't have the feds helping to foot the bill paying for illegals, and having to deport the bad ones, themselves.

I wonder if all the tech companies would stay, and it would be funny seeing the US congress giving them plenty of favorable treatment to get them to leave CA.

Re: Calexit

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:07 pm
by Malcolm
It's not the lack of industry that'll kill them. The lack of water might do it.

Re: Calexit

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:31 pm
by Vince
Businesses are already leaving CA. It's too damned expensive to be in business there. That's part of why Texas has been heading blue. CA businesses moving there and bringing all those damned Califorians.

Re: Calexit

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:02 pm
by Leisher
I think they would fail massively.

First, as Vince points out, there's a mass exodus of businesses from Cali to Texas already. Imagine all the remaining businesses realizing they now have to pay tariffs to ship their product to the rest of the states.

Second, as Malcolm points out, water will be an issue.

Third, imagine the exodus of "like minded" morons from around the country and what I imagine would be an open border with Mexico. That's a LOT of people not paying taxes and sucking off the state's tit.

Fourth, do you think anybody with money is going to stick around to pay for everyone else?

Fifth, Hollywood talks a big game, but as has been pointed out countless times, when it comes to their money, they don't spend the same way they preach politically. There has already been talk of them moving to a different state, and they already do most of their filming outside California because it's cheaper. Do we really think they're staying?

And I could go on, but it's obvious California would be Greece with a huge head start on people who don't want to work, debt, and unsustainable social programs.

Re: Calexit

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:11 pm
by GORDON
I think after 3 months of hemorrhaging taxpayers, they would unfuck themselves and become an actual fiscally responsible country.... and tell the SJWs to GFT... just like we wish they'd all have done in the first place.

Re: Calexit

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:23 am
by Vince
I almost forgot... they also pay other states for a lot of their electrical power.

Re: Calexit

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:26 am
by Troy
You guys are getting click baited hard by this reporter. Her generous term with the word "unlikely" a few times is getting your vapors up.

State politics are very different in CA, more so than any state i've lived in.

CA is a very large state. Yuge, 38 million. Getting the 400k necessary signatures to get a Proposition isn't that hard. I voted yes/no on over 100 propositions alone in the last election. Yes/No votes by the state electorate, sometimes with major legal changes for the state.

Here's some stuff I voted for in CA that went through(city and state):

new laws have to be publicly displayed 72 hours before going into the books (thanks for the paranoia, NC)
fast track death penalty
Weed
not to ban the death penalty (funny, how you can have enough signatures for two opposite props)
tent ban in SF
school bonds
fast tracking development in the naval yard
Raise tax on cigs (SF - the asian people here are killing themselves like it's the 50s)

Tons of props don't go through, many are very bad. off the top of my head from the last election:
charging for take out bags
new city department of housing development in SF
requires condoms in porno films statewide

So keep in mind, this guy -
In 2015, Marinelli paid $200 each to get nine initiatives related to secession on a statewide ballot, according to The Los Angeles Times. None garnered the nearly 400,000 signatures necessary to appear on the ballot. So Marinelli and his followers were forced to start over.
Can't even do better than the lobby that wants condoms on everyone all the time.

Re: Calexit

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:56 am
by GORDON
I didn't click bait nothin, I didn't even read TFA. It's all just a thought exercise, I don't think it would ever happen.... too much money to be lost. And Leisher is right, the hypocrisy is delicious. I honestly think 20% of the population went legitimately insane two weeks ago.

Though, I WOULD support it. I think this country is unfixably divided and we don't like each other any more.

Re: Calexit

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:55 pm
by Leisher
Right, this isn't about an article, although if you want to go according to an article google the topic and you'll find tons from whatever "legit" source you prefer.

Re: Calexit

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:48 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:20% of the population went legitimately insane two weeks ago.
I'd say 75%, at least. And long before 2 weeks ago.

Re: Calexit

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:34 pm
by GORDON
They stopped being able to disguise their insanity, then.

Re: Calexit

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:43 pm
by Malcolm
I'd wager the vast majority of the US population qualifies as mentally ill. Most people's bodies are in shit shape, and hell, you have obvious visual or other medical cues to inform you of that. I have to conclude their brains are worse. Lots worse, and they're wholly unaware. I count at least 121M psychos as of two weeks past.