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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:32 pm
by GORDON
Conan's mom was hot.
Near the beginning... right before the Darth Vader kills her... is one of my all-time favorite movie scenes. Why are they all so solemn? I don't know! I like it.
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:34 pm
by GORDON
The movie just hapens to be on cable, now.
So much of this movie is told without dialogue. That's good storytelling. Excuse the contradiction.
I like it when the director figures every little detail doesn't need to be explained kindergarten-style.
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:21 pm
by Leisher
I've heard word that a new Conan film is in the works.
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:31 pm
by GORDON
Even Conan the Destroyer lost the storytelling skill of the original, so I have no hope for a new Conan, either.
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:14 am
by Zetleft
I have zero faith in a new one, wasn't Kull the conqueror supposed to be based on Conan creator Robert E. Howard's work as well. Conan's son or relative or some such shit, that movie was so horrible I could not finish watching it. That's how a Conan movie would be done today folks... better to leave the series dead then fuck it up like Star Wars has been.
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:15 am
by thibodeaux
Kull is a Howard character, and I think he's from the same "millieu" as Conan, but from a way earlier time.
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:44 pm
by Malcolm
Why are they all so solemn?
I think it's because Thulsa is supposed to be hypnotizing Conan's mom. His troops back off and Conan's scared.
Even Conan the Destroyer lost the storytelling skill of the original, so I have no hope for a new Conan, either.
Destroyer's on now. Fucking hell, I forgot how much this movie sucked.
The scene with him fighting the wizard-ape thing is nearly unwatchable. Wilt Chamberlain is a shittier actor than Arnold.
"Hey Wilt, can we redo that scene? Can you put some feeling into it? Can you make me believe you didn't memorize your lines by putting the script on the headboard of your hotel bed and glancing at it in between thrusts? Can you do anything in terms of acting?"
"I can act, uh, taller."
"Goddamnit, you can't even make me believe that."
Fun facts: the dude that Conan kills in the horse/joust scene is the same dude who plays Thulsa Doom's hammer-wielding hench from the original is the same dude from Running Man that's the security guard who abandons Killian at the end. The god/statue thing is none other than Andre the Giant.
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:01 am
by Leisher
"I can act, uh, taller."
"Goddamnit, you can't even make me believe that."
I laughed.
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:23 pm
by Malcolm
Even Conan the Destroyer lost the storytelling skill of the original, so I have no hope for a new Conan, either.
I like how our predictions for the reboot were spot on. Additionally, here's why the sequel sucked...
Roy Thomas and Gerry Conway wrote the original story treatment, but were dissastified with the final screenplay by Stanley Mann and the finished film. They made their story into the graphic novel Conan the Barbarian: The Horn of Azoth, published in 1990, with art by Mike Docherty.
The original was done by Oliver Stone and cocaine. That sounds weird, but he did so much blow during that time the cartels successfully sued Hollywood to receive equal credit. But that's just the screenplay.
Conan the Barbarian made approximately $40 million at the U.S. box office when it was released in 1982 with an R rating, and an additional $50 million in foreign markets. Because Universal Pictures and producer Dino De Laurentiis thought it would have been even more successful if it had been less violent, they wanted to tone down the violence in the sequel. Conan the Destroyer originally received an R rating like its predecessor, but the film was recut in order to secure a PG rating.
Ah fuck. Now the editing.
When John Milius, director of Conan the Barbarian, proved to be unavailable to direct the sequel, Dino De Laurentiis suggested Richard Fleischer to his daughter Raffaella De Laurentiis, who was producing Conan the Destroyer. Fleischer had already made Barabbas (1961) and Mandingo (1975) for Dino De Laurentiis.
Strike three. Naturally, this stellar lineup was hired to mangle another Howard property. Red Sonja.
The epilogue.
The third film in the Conan trilogy had been planned for a 1987 release with the title Conan the Conqueror. The director was to have been either Guy Hamilton or John Guillermin. Arnold Schwarzenegger, however, was committed to the film Predator, and De Laurentiis's contract with the star had expired after his obligation to Red Sonja and Raw Deal, and he wasn't keen to negotiate a new one. The third Conan film thus sank into development hell. The script was eventually turned into Kull the Conqueror.
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:31 pm
by GORDON
It has been a while, but the reboot had 2 scenes I liked: the kid slaughters invaders solo and doesn't break the egg, and Conan has that guy deliver a message via catapult. If they could have made the entire movie based around those 2 scenes, it would have been amazing.
ALthough, why would that kid be able to slaughter invaders solo without even thinking about it? In the original, Conan was a product of his upbringing. The reboot suggests he was just born a psycho.
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:49 pm
by Malcolm
The reboot suggests he was just born a psycho.
That's a ways away from Robert E. Howard's characterization. Kind of annoying. Even the first two made him seem dimwitted.