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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:36 pm
by GORDON
BTW, 50k kids are not coming here to work, they are coming here to get some treasure.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news.....U7
Granted, I can't imagine how bad shit would have to be before I packed off my kid to another country, so a big part of me says WTF IS GOING ON DOWN THERE. But still.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:55 pm
by Malcolm
There's not a good way to look anti-immigration without coming off looking like a dick in PR-ville. It's doubly hard considering this country was founded and fueled by immigrants, yes, a shitload of them being illegal. It's like standing up and being, "Oh shit, sorry guys. The clock ran out a little bit ago. Should've been here during the 1800s, though. Wow. Those were some days. Land rushes a-plenty."
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:29 pm
by GORDON
Malcolm wrote:There's not a good way to look anti-immigration without coming off looking like a dick in PR-ville. It's doubly hard considering this country was founded and fueled by immigrants, yes, a shitload of them being illegal. It's like standing up and being, "Oh shit, sorry guys. The clock ran out a little bit ago. Should've been here during the 1800s, though. Wow. Those were some days. Land rushes a-plenty."
I don't think anyone would argue that there could, in the future, be a point where the USA cannot handle, assimilate, afford, or whatever any more immigrants. Who knows where that point is. What makes one "evil" is deciding that time is sooner rather than later.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:39 pm
by TPRJones
I still can't blame them too much. If your kid is starving or likely to be killed you go somewhere else. Anywhere else. Regardless of if it's illegal to do so or not.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:58 pm
by Malcolm
I don't think anyone would argue that there could, in the future, be a point where the USA cannot handle, assimilate, afford, or whatever any more immigrants.
The population density in the US is tiny compared to places like India, China, Spain, Japan, and various other holes in Europe. It's going to have to get way more crowded with a way, way shittier economy.
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:27 am
by GORDON
Malcolm wrote:I don't think anyone would argue that there could, in the future, be a point where the USA cannot handle, assimilate, afford, or whatever any more immigrants.
The population density in the US is tiny compared to places like India, China, Spain, Japan, and various other holes in Europe. It's going to have to get way more crowded with a way, way shittier economy.
Which is why there are evil people who say "sooner" before we hit that point. But that's evil.
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:01 am
by Vince
1914 immigrant: "Go to America. If you work hard, you can make a life for yourself"
2014 immigrant: "Go to America. They give you free stuff."
I don't blame them for wanting to be hear either. But allowing this flood of illegals in and grant them amnesty (which is coming) is going to change the political landscape. And I don't mean "make us more Democrat party" I mean "make us more south American government".
This won't end well.
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:48 am
by Leisher
1914 immigrant: "Go to America. If you work hard, you can make a life for yourself"
2014 immigrant: "Go to America. They give you free stuff."
That's a great point.
I'm all for immigration, but I think everyone needs to enter the country legally, file the proper paperwork, get the background checks, and pass the citizenship test.
If you're here illegally, you shouldn't be here. If folks think that's inhumane, they are more than welcome to go south of the border to do charity work, and take their money with them to help out.
I get why folks run here, and in their situation, I would too. However, it hasn't just resulted in some folks here losing a few tax bucks. This exodus is changing our culture and lifestyle. It impacting our politics and social services. We're being told to adapt to accommodate those coming here illegally instead of the illegals adapting to our culture. A lot of people on both sides of the border have died, and will continue to die because of these illegal crossings.
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:20 am
by Malcolm
...and pass the citizenship test.
Half the natural born citizens of this country couldn't pass one.
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:33 am
by Leisher
Malcolm wrote:...and pass the citizenship test.
Half the natural born citizens of this country couldn't pass one.
I wouldn't argue that, but they're not trying to earn their citizenship.
Frat boys don't get hazed once they're in...
Besides, I have a whole different set of expectations for folks born here.