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thibodeaux wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:32 pm ZERO people have died from the Omicron variant. JFC. And essentially zero children have died of covid, PERIOD. There's absolutely no reason to vaccinate children AT ALL.

But experts say the symptoms caused by Omicron are more like colds.

Bugs and infections are everywhere and it’s important that you’re able to distinguish between colds and Covid.

Virologist and Professor of Molecular Oncology, Professor Lawrence Young said people logging their symptoms in the UK had described cold-like symptoms, rather that the classic trio of Covid symptoms.

“So it’s slowly turning into a more symptomatic milder condition that just looks like a severe cold for many people."

Experts say the best way to protect yourself from Omicron is to get your booster vaccine.

TheCatt wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:58 pm

thibodeaux wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:32 pm ZERO people have died from the Omicron variant. JFC. And essentially zero children have died of covid, PERIOD. There's absolutely no reason to vaccinate children AT ALL.

Even if they are in contact with high risk people?

thibodeaux wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:50 am Why aren't the "high risk" people vaccinated? And if they are...why does it matter if the kids are?

That's rhetorical: You're tacitly admitting that the vaccine won't keep high risk people from getting sick. But it also doesn't keep kids from spreading it. But we stil need to vaccinate everybody! To keep them out of the hospital! Even though kids don't get sick from covid.

thibodeaux wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:02 pm The mandates are black and white. The insistence on vaccination is black and white. The demonization of "unvaccinated" people is black and white ("they shouldn't get health care!" Great, now do obesity and AIDS). The other side framed this debate, not me.

TheCatt wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:34 pm

thibodeaux wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:02 pm The mandates are black and white. The insistence on vaccination is black and white. The demonization of "unvaccinated" people is black and white ("they shouldn't get health care!" Great, now do obesity and AIDS). The other side framed this debate, not me.

Fair.

Cakedaddy wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:14 pm I expect more from Thib who, I think, believes he is one of the smarter people in the room. Stop acting like all the dumb ones, while trying to point out how dumb they are.

thibodeaux wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:32 am

Cakedaddy wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:14 pm I expect more from Thib who, I think, believes he is one of the smarter people in the room. Stop acting like all the dumb ones, while trying to point out how dumb they are.

Point out one thing I've said that's wrong.

(spoiler alert: it is just like getting a cold)

The vaccine’s human trials took longer than expected, he said, because the lab needed to test the vaccine on subjects who had neither been vaccinated nor previously infected with COVID.

Increasing vaccination rates and the rapid spread of the Delta and Omicron variants made that difficult.

“With Omicron, there's no way really to escape this virus. You're not going to be able to avoid it. So I think pretty soon either the whole world will be vaccinated or have been infected,” Modjarrad said.

The likelihood this generation will see another pandemic during its lifetime “is high,” Modjarrad said. “We have seen the acceleration of these pathogens and the epidemics that they precipitate. And it may not be a coronavirus, this may not be the big one. There may be something that's more transmissible and more deadly ahead of us.”