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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:38 am
by Malcolm
Given the time, money, and inclination, I could have written program generators that could have taken care of 95% of their programmer needs.
That's not true of the joint I work at.
We're about a decade away from this being something that will be automated by the creative coding bots, yes.
I'll see you in a decade.
The other 10% will take a bit longer to be automated but not much longer.
I'm waiting for the AI version of Johnnie Cochran 1.0.
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:33 pm
by TPRJones
I suspect that once they nail down the finer points of Seacrest Bot then Cochran Bot will be not too far behind.
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:49 pm
by Malcolm
TPRJones wrote:I suspect that once they nail down the finer points of Seacrest Bot then Cochran Bot will be not too far behind.
I think it's easier to make a human-machine hybrid than it is to make an AI with originality, creativity, and intuition comparable to a person. It's not the 'bots, dude, that I think will be the future. It's the 'borgs.
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:56 pm
by TPRJones
I admire your optimism, Malcolm.
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Whoa, that felt weird to type.
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:56 pm
by Malcolm
Borgs and genetic engineering. Mark my words.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 2:01 pm
by GORDON
Robots expected to take over one third of jobs in 10 years.
http://www.businessinsider.com/experts....-2015-5
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 2:34 pm
by Malcolm
Their abilities will only continue to expand. Ray Kurzweil, director of engineering at Google, anticipates that by 2029 robots will have reached human levels of intelligence.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Not a fucking chance, Ray. What a shock. A dude that works with robots all day thinks they'll rule the world in under 15 years.
While one camp of experts predict that several unlucky Americans will be pushed out of work in the near future, others argue that this increase in computing prowess will simply eliminate old jobs and introduce new ones, resulting in a net-zero effect — or even an increase in jobs. New technology means new products and services, they argue, as we saw during the Industrial Revolution.
Boo-yah. Why I'm not worried.
Everyone in the world prior to the invention of refrigeration and the supermarket if they caught a time machine to today:
"HOLY SHIT! What do you people do with all your spare time?"
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Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 3:32 pm
by TheCatt
Malcolm wrote:Everyone in the world prior to the invention of refrigeration and the supermarket if they caught a time machine to today:
"HOLY SHIT! What do you people do with all your spare time?"
"Reddit, mostly"
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 11:07 pm
by Malcolm
AI gets its ass kicked by most human poker players. I feel more secure about my career every day. Machines have shit for guile, deception, originality, and instinct.
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 12:53 pm
by TPRJones
Iteration. In a year Claudio 2.0 will wipe them all out.
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:06 pm
by Malcolm
TPRJones wrote:Iteration. In a year Claudio 2.0 will wipe them all out.
Your faith in electronic intelligence is nothing short of amazing. If all you want is deterministic number crunching, machines are awesome. If all you want is a state machine, they're still pretty good. If you want something with spontaneous creativity and sentience, they suck and will continue to suck until an earth-shattering learning algorithm is invented.
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:22 pm
by TPRJones
I don't think real creativity and sentience is possible on the current hardware paradigm. We've got a ways to go before that becomes a possible thing that might happen.
But simulated creativity and simulated sentience isn't that hard. Just a much more complex state machine.
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:27 pm
by Malcolm
TPRJones wrote:I don't think real creativity and sentience is possible on the current hardware paradigm. We've got a ways to go before that becomes a possible thing that might happen.
But simulated creativity and simulated sentience isn't that hard. Just a much more complex state machine.
Simulated creativity isn't good enough. It's not real. Machines know how to play within the rules, possibly better than anything else. They suck at writing their own. The last bit means they will always suck at certain tasks.
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:43 pm
by TPRJones
I don't think you realize just how long "always" is.
And simulated is good enough if it is able to fool the opposition. Let's check back in a couple of years and see how it's going.
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:48 pm
by Malcolm
I still say machine + man has far more potential than just machine.
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 5:43 pm
by Vince
I agree with that Malcolm, but I think the hurdles involved with the interface are going to make the machine> man before the man-machine (or machine man w/ apologies to Marvel) > machine.
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 9:01 pm
by Malcolm
Vince wrote:I agree with that Malcolm, but I think the hurdles involved with the interface are going to make the machine> man before the man-machine (or machine man w/ apologies to Marvel) > machine.
Not a chance. Already got people implanting chips in themselves to tap into all kinds of weird shit. You'll be able to grow organs around the electronics and genetically screen out all your shitty negative traits (like predisposition to shitty medical conditions) and swap them the fuck out when they wear down. We'll knock that shit out before we get a real, sentient AI.
Robots are nice for dangerous things like disarming bombs and launching projectiles in high-risk areas. But I want everyday improvements for me as well, not just some metallo-plastic droid. The brain's already a rather powerful CPU and SSD device. All you need is a stronger, more durable frame with a modular sensory I/O. Want to detect EM fields like a shark? Plug in the proper sensor into your bio-USB port, soon to be available on NewNewEgg. Want eyes that can switch up visible wavelengths like the Predator? Grow some new eyes and nerves in a vat. Donate the crappy old ones to charity, tax write off.
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 9:13 pm
by TPRJones
I'm just looking forward to the first really good robot maid. To clean my apartment without judging me.
About 10 years, 15 to 20 to become somewhat affordable.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 9:20 am
by GORDON
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 9:26 am
by GORDON
Stephen Hawking says AI will defeat humans within 100 years.
http://www.techworld.com/news....3611397
I think it'll be quicker. Once someone figures out how to make a computer a little smart, big smart will be about 3 months after that.