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Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:22 pm**

Actually, you are 100% wrong because you implied I was looking for a reason to be offended. And at this point, you're shifting the debate away from Noah and into something more ridiculous, which is fine, but my point stands.

If a comedian always seems to keep coming back to certain topics, you can bet there's a personal reason.

Should folks be upset by his tweets? Not necessarily. Aside from the one, it's quite clear they're all based in humor. However, isn't it fair for them to also be given pause and be hesitant over a guy who hammers those topics? I mean, it's a left leaning show and he's taking over for a Jews...

If you're hanging out with a guy who makes joke after joke about black people, you're telling me that at no point are you thinking, "This guy might be a little bit racist."

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:32 pm**

Actually, you are 100% wrong because you implied I was looking for a reason to be offended.

Oh. No. I was saying IF a person (the generic "you") found that tweet offensive then it was because they were trying to be offended.

If you do not find it offensive then it does not apply and we aren't in disagreement.

If a comedian always seems to keep coming back to certain topics, you can bet there's a personal reason.

Sure, but I didn't really see that in action with this guy. I see that he has almost 9k tweets. I see that one of those makes fun of Germans. I see that one makes fun of women's hockey. I see one that makes fun of drunk people and one that makes fun of Bruce Jenner. In no way do I see any of these 1-out-of-9000 tweets on a particular topic as "coming back to certain topics" with "joke after joke".

I also watched several clips of him doing stand up this afternoon (about an hour total) and none of it was in any way repetitive or picking on any one group more than others.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:37 pm**

Comedians push the lines of comedy. Or else they're uh, some bland comedian who I forget about.

Not everything's going to be a win, sometimes lines will be encroached upon or crossed. That's fine. People are just being sensitive.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:49 pm**

Malcolm wrote:I can't see any major party in the Middle East seriously thinking about a peaceful solution allowing any kind of coexistence among the various groups over there. I don't think they're serious because they don't think it's possible. Guess they'll have to spend another couple centuries blowing the fuck out of each other.

From what I have seen, Israel would probably be really happy if people weren't constantly shooting rockets at them, an average of 1000 per year in the last decade. Nobody pays attention until Israel shoots back then those Jews all just love killing brown people.

Anything that bugs the left wing has to be a good thing.

It is my impression, having actually been there and trained with their military, that they are the only good guys in the region. Whether or not they have the right to exist is a different issue, the the U.N. says they do. They're there now, and constantly under attack.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:03 pm**

Nobody pays attention until Israel shoots back then those Jews all just love killing brown people.

Plenty of attention is paid.

It is my impression, having actually been there and trained with their military, that they are the only good guys in the region.

Yeah, nice blokes.

... average of 1000 per year in the last decade

According to OCHA figures, Israel fired 5,830 missiles in 4,028 IAF air raids, the IDF's ground forces shot off 16,507 artillery and tank projectiles, and the Israeli navy's off-shore fleet fired 3,494 naval shells, into the Gaza Strip.

That's in 2014 in Gaza.

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Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:11 pm**

Into targets in Gaza where the missiles come from, the missiles from Gaza are always aimed at civilians populations. Good things the animals can't aim very well. If Israel wanted to, obviously they could level that entire little strip of land. The fact that they don't, in spite of most of the world thinking they do, should be telling.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:35 pm**

The fact that they don't, in spite of most of the world thinking they do, should be telling.

Pretty sure the fact that they haven't means they've weighed the consequences of doing so and determined it's not worth it.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:35 pm**

Malcolm wrote:
The fact that they don't, in spite of most of the world thinking they do, should be telling.
Pretty sure the fact that they haven't means they've weighed the consequences of doing so and determined it's not worth it.

Why, because the whole world would start hating Jews and all of their neighbors would want to invade them? Oh no, they wouldn't want that.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:39 pm**

GORDON wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
The fact that they don't, in spite of most of the world thinking they do, should be telling.
Pretty sure the fact that they haven't means they've weighed the consequences of doing so and determined it's not worth it.
Why, because the whole world would start hating Jews and all of their neighbors would want to invade them? Oh no, they wouldn't want that.

So military superiority isn't everything and isn't providing a real world solution?

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:40 pm**

Yeah, it's not like it'd much hurt how bad the other Arab countries hate them. And lately their allies haven't been too hot either. If they leveled them, what would happen? A bunch of bitching and eventually that would die down and the problem would still be removed. So I agree that it says more about Israel in what they haven't done as opposed to what they have done.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:47 pm**

Malcolm wrote:
GORDON wrote:
Malcolm wrote: Pretty sure the fact that they haven't means they've weighed the consequences of doing so and determined it's not worth it.
Why, because the whole world would start hating Jews and all of their neighbors would want to invade them? Oh no, they wouldn't want that.
So military superiority isn't everything and isn't providing a real world solution?

I think it would, but it would need to be really damned draconian. I don't kill women and children, so they need to be evacuated first. Marry them off to lonely old men in Iowa. Then you level the entire region flat and kill all the men of fighting age.

If Israel flattened Gaza there would just be X thousands of refugees everywhere.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:58 pm**

If Israel flattened Gaza there would just be X thousands of refugees everywhere.

I'm thinking that alone isn't what's holding them back from doing it.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:18 pm**

I don't kill women and children...

That could be a problem. Then little Abdul will grow up to want to avenge his father with jihad. Not a permanent solution.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:14 am**

Comedians push the lines of comedy. Or else they're uh, some bland comedian who I forget about.

Not everything's going to be a win, sometimes lines will be encroached upon or crossed. That's fine. People are just being sensitive.

There's always people being sensitive, but it seemed like there might be smoke here. I'm still suspicious, but I'll take TPR's word for it that this guy isn't anti-Jews.

That could be a problem. Then little Abdul will grow up to want to avenge his father with jihad. Not a permanent solution.

That's why you kill them all. Nobody left to get revenge.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:16 am**

That's why you kill them all. Nobody left to get revenge.

Long as we get everyone from both sides, sure. I'm not playing favourites.

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Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:59 am**

I'm still suspicious, but I'll take TPR's word for it that this guy isn't anti-Jews.

I wouldn't go quite that far. I just haven't seen any evidence of it presented beyond a single tweet that I don't consider at all antisemitic.

But it does seem unlikely. Jon Stewart is the last person I'd suspect of quietly turning over his show to an anti-Semite.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:20 pm**

Trevor and CC respond.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:01 pm**

I wish they would have hired Anthony Jeselnick.

"But other than that, how was the movie?" - His tweet after the Aurora shootings.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:14 pm**

I wish they would have hired Anthony Jeselnick.

You think they'd give him Stewart's show if he couldn't hold down his own?

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:30 pm**

To be fair, Stewart was handed a show with an existing audience. Did he take it to a new level? Yes, but it was an existing property.

Jeselnick's show was brilliant, and just as it was gaining momentum, it was killed. This was on a network that's famous for green lighting every show possible, barely doing anything to promote them, and giving them quick deaths. Thus, Tosh's sign off at the end of every show.

Noah has never had a show, however as long as the ratings stay somewhat what they were, he'd be considered a success. What would he have done with a show of his own?

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