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TheCatt wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2026 1:50 pm Bulls just wanna fuck. They don't want emotional burden... 90% rule.

I'm not saying they all call and ask them to prom. If there's ass available to you, you're going to want it on your schedule, not some cuck's.

There's a reason marriages where the bedroom gets opened have a 70-90% (depending on source) divorce rate. Feelings get caught. People see grass being greener. People start hooking up secretly without others knowing. Spouses begin seeing their partner in a different, negative light.

I'd wager a lot of money that for cucks, that last point is the killer. Obviously, there will be exceptions, but biologically speaking, a man being submissive in his own bedroom to another man isn't making 99.9% of women moist for that submissive man. They're going to lose respect for him. They're going to question if he really even loves them. Who would give away something he loves?

Go dig up the video of streamer and political pundit, Destiny, whose wife, at the time, came into his live stream with a guy she brought home to fuck her. She had no respect for him at that point. You can see the pain in Destiny's eyes. She was out of the marriage a short time later.

Women initiate the majority of divorces, and there's no stability in an open marriage.

Again, always exceptions, but no woman grew up dreaming of her husband eating some other guy's jizz out of her pussy.

The good news is that this doesn't go the other way. Wives sharing their husband with all their girlfriends is absolutely natural and should be
encouraged!!

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TheCatt wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2026 1:50 pm Yeah, with the dude who worked for her.

Not defending her for that, but today's society has really made it so the workplace is the most likely place to meet a lover. It's not like the milkman is delivering cream anymore.

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That picture is hilarious. Why do so many of these guys go with giant tits?

I read a study once that said "tit men" were far more likely to cheat, and I wonder if love for giant tits are a good indicator of deviant behavior?

Leisher wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 9:55 am I read a study once that said "tit men" were far more likely to cheat, and I wonder if love for giant tits are a good indicator of deviant behavior?

Uh oh, my wife likes big titties. What did it say about that?

Leisher wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 9:55 am and there's no stability in an open marriage.

I know... not a lot of people with open or even semi-open marriages. When I was in college, one of my girlfriends' parents were semi-open. They could bang whoever they wanted, date some. They had been married > 20 years at that point, and seemed to be very committed still. Wonder how things ended up?

My best friend from college + his wife opened things up, but they had ISSUES, and ended up divorced. But he ended up with someone else and they are in a polycule together that bangs, and seem pretty happy. It's only been 6 years or so.

TheCatt wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 7:10 pm Uh oh, my wife likes big titties. What did it say about that?

She married you, so deviant behavior proven!

I don't think they tested women, but I'd be curious should they do a similar study on women who like big dicks. Although, let's be honest, the study should be on women who like big bank accounts... And even more honestly, that study doesn't need to be done as it's been proven over and over and over and over.

As for the open marriages, there will always be exceptions, which is why the divorce rate isn't 100%. If it works for a married couple, more power to them. However, if asked for advice I would advise anyone that the odds are against them.

Leisher wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 11:42 am She married you, so deviant behavior proven!

Fair.

Leisher wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 11:42 am However, if asked for advice I would advise anyone that the odds are against them.

I think most people who go into it are just... unprepared. Naive. It's like those couples who have a baby to "fix" a marriage.

TheCatt wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 11:47 am I think most people who go into it are just... unprepared. Naive.

Sure, but I'd argue a larger percentage just cannot and should not do it. I go with what Nina Hartley said about girls doing porn (paraphrasing), "Most women are not mentally capable of handling the business for what it is." I think the same of swinging. Most men are not built to deal with their partner having sex with someone else. Most women are not built to have sex casually with randoms, despite what feminism keeps telling them.

I'm not being sexist, just stating facts of nature. As humans, I think our biggest flaw is constantly thinking we're not irreversibly driven by Mother Nature.

TheCatt wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 11:47 am It's like those couples who have a baby to "fix" a marriage.

Dummies.

Similarly, I know a woman who recently got knocked up by her husband. A man who has cheated on her multiple times and she was actively working on saving up to leave. I wanted to tell her, "Good luck with that anchor baby", but I held my tongue. Having babies to fix marriages is just the dumbest shit possible.

Leisher wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 11:58 am Sure, but I'd argue a larger percentage just cannot and should not do it.

Science magazine, or Scientific American, unsure, did a study about it that was published recently. It wasn't a scientific study, imho, more like a sociological one (what did people experience, what made it work, etc). At any rate, this focused on successful couples. And, basically, even for them, almost all of them had a happiness drop at the beginning as they worked their way through it, but they all ended up happier in the end. They made people for their kinks, for a big penis, for a small penis, for variety, for better cuddling, big boobs, small boobs, etc. Granted, since this was just successful couples, it's not about the issues people who quit had.

Leisher wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 11:58 am Most men are not built to deal with their partner having sex with someone else. Most women are not built to have sex casually with randoms, despite what feminism keeps telling them.

I agree, for the most part. If my wife REALLY wanted to have sex with someone, I'd be at least somewhat open to it. Her pleasure/life experiences matter to me. I don't think I'd want to be there though. That being said, she's the type who needs a deep emotional connection before sex, so it wouldn't happen anyway.

Leisher wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 11:58 am Similarly, I know a woman who recently got knocked up by her husband. A man who has cheated on her multiple times and she was actively working on saving up to leave. I wanted to tell her, "Good luck with that anchor baby", but I held my tongue. Having babies to fix marriages is just the dumbest shit possible.

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TheCatt wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 2:03 pm Science magazine, or Scientific American, unsure, did a study about it that was published recently.

I might have seen the article. It's ringing a bell.

TheCatt wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 2:03 pm I don't think I'd want to be there though.

I could never. Zero interest. I'm way too Italian and jealous. Hell, I had a chance to spit roast a chick that wasn't my GF back in my single days, and it was 100% not my thing. If I didn't like it when the chick was someone I barely knew, I cannot imagine how much I'd hate it if I loved her.

TheCatt wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 2:03 pm she's the type who needs a deep emotional connection before sex

The scientific term for that is "woman".

Leisher wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 3:23 pm The scientific term for that is "woman".

Not all women! But yeah...