Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:23 pm
Yea. A different kind of idiocy will reign in congress.
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:44 pm
Secretly I think Obama is thrilled. He can now blame Congress for the next two years.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:51 pm
Yeah. They've all been blaming the House for the last two, anyway. Easy adjustment.Leisher wrote:Secretly I think Obama is thrilled. He can now blame Congress for the next two years.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:35 am
I think Obama will just go nuts with executive power for the next two years. But I think he'll have a hard time calling the Republicans "the party of 'no'" when he's the one doing all the vetoing.Leisher wrote:Secretly I think Obama is thrilled. He can now blame Congress for the next two years.
I don't think he's nearly as smart as Bill Clinton was after the '94 elections.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:52 am
I stand by my earlier opinion... CC is fine. People just lack the mental ability to handle change.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:08 am
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:48 am
Just read an interesting question:
With a Republican congress, will the media stop pretending the economy is great, and unemployment is low?
With a Republican congress, will the media stop pretending the economy is great, and unemployment is low?
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:57 am
While I absolutely agree with you that people fear change, I think you're wrong about CC. At least the math portion of it.TheCatt wrote:I stand by my earlier opinion... CC is fine. People just lack the mental ability to handle change.
According to actual math professors and experts in the field, including the two who helped develop CC's math standards, it's not fine. At least, not for teaching kids this young.
I know nothing about the rest of CC, so I can't praise or criticize it.
We're getting out asses kicked by multiple other countries, why not just see what they're doing? And while I agree that certain standards need to be there as a guideline, I don't want them to limit the potential of the best students. Right now it seems our kids are being taught to those standards, not to exceed them.
Plus, anything that Bill Gates had his hands in just reeks of evil.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:41 am
I've been doing the 1st grade and 2nd grade CC math with my daughter. Is it more complex? Yes, at first. But there's an elegant simplicity in it once you grok it. Is it too much for poor precious purple butterflies? Apparently.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:43 am
CC is a product of Crapitalism rather than educators. It will fill coffers of test givers and politicians that support them. That's what's driving it. Making money.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:35 am
TheCatt wrote:I've been doing the 1st grade and 2nd grade CC math with my daughter. Is it more complex? Yes, at first. But there's an elegant simplicity in it once you grok it. Is it too much for poor precious purple butterflies? Apparently.
Can someone show me one of these mythical CC problems complete with the correct answer? How the fuck many ways are there to get across "x + 2 = 5 means x = 3?"
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:52 am
Common core 2nd grade math
Page 8 through 11 describe some of the strategies that parents are upset about. Like having to understand math.
Page 8 through 11 describe some of the strategies that parents are upset about. Like having to understand math.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:01 am
Like having to understand math.
Oh that. Are the old people bitching there's not enough memorization of multiplication tables?
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:45 am
Yes.Malcolm wrote:Oh that. Are the old people bitching there's not enough memorization of multiplication tables?Like having to understand math.
And not carrying the one in addition.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:15 pm
And not carrying the one in addition.
...How does that work? Where does the one go now?
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:49 pm
The one can carry itself, damnit, and stop expecting others to do the work.TPRJones wrote:...How does that work? Where does the one go now?And not carrying the one in addition.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:17 pm
There are a few different ways, iirc.TPRJones wrote:...How does that work? Where does the one go now?And not carrying the one in addition.
But basically they break the math down into smaller problems, or they do other tricks.
64 + 27 =
60 + 4 + 20 + 7 =
60 + 20 + 4 + 7 =
80 + 11 =
91
or
9 + 5 =
10 + 4 =
14
or
63 - 27 =
60 - 24 =
56 - 20 =
36
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:27 pm
Interesting. So basically they're teaching all these kids the tricks that used to be taught to UIL Number Sense competitors in middle school. How old are these tricks aimed at?
EDIT: Been thinking about it, and while it's good to teach kids these tricks, I'm not sure it's a good way to teach the math. It doesn't seem like it would be a good way to get the basic concepts across. It's more something to teach them after they've been taught and practiced the basic related math operations and concepts.
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EDIT: Been thinking about it, and while it's good to teach kids these tricks, I'm not sure it's a good way to teach the math. It doesn't seem like it would be a good way to get the basic concepts across. It's more something to teach them after they've been taught and practiced the basic related math operations and concepts.
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:28 pm
Points taken for carrying the oneTheCatt wrote:64 + 27 =
60 + 4 + 20 + 7 =
60 + 20 + 4 + 7 =
80 + 11 =
91
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:31 pm
There was no one-carrying there.