A&M fires Fisher for $76M.
PSU fires their OC.
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"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Can you imagine showing up to work everyday in your 60s or 70s with EVERYONE expecting nothing but perfection from you? Having to go kiss the asses of teenagers and their families 24/7. Pretend that you like or give two shits about their interests. Traveling all over the country constantly on your ass kissing tours. And then someone says they're going to give you $76M to not do that anymore.
Sorry Cake, this is too funny not to share.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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A&M started a thing.
Miss St fires their coach.
Side note: One of the few legit points, and not shock jock stuff, Cowherd ever made was that so many SEC schools were completely unrealistic trying to become Bama. So many coaches fired. So many unstable programs. They didn't realize they did not have the culture and resources that Bama had.
Brady Hoke retiring after this year.
He's going to focus full time on buffets.
Miss St fires their coach.
Side note: One of the few legit points, and not shock jock stuff, Cowherd ever made was that so many SEC schools were completely unrealistic trying to become Bama. So many coaches fired. So many unstable programs. They didn't realize they did not have the culture and resources that Bama had.
Brady Hoke retiring after this year.
He's going to focus full time on buffets.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Honest answer?
After years of Stroud, Haskins, Fields, Smith, Jones, Barrett, etc. he feels like a step down. He can't run, which was a staple of all the other guys.
I've been more concerned with his decision making.
What's funny is his numbers are basically the same as JJ McCarthy's and he's supposedly a Heisman candidate. McCord has more yards and TDs.
He did a lot this last week to show he's starting to get it. Sure, it was against MSU, but he still played a perfect game. If he repeats it this week, it'll be more of a confidence booster going into TTUN week.
The Game should be a good one. Off field nonsense aside, I think TTUN has the edge only due to the home field. The teams seem to be evenly matched. I'd be surprised if it was a blowout either way. TTUN looks like the better running team, although Henderson looks finally healthy. OSU has the better passing game and the best player on the field will be Harrison. The question mark is both Ds. Can OSU stop the run? Can TTUN stop OSU's passing attack without sacrificing run stopping?
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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I'm hearing Ewers might stick around another year for Texas. Probably smart considering this draft is going to be loaded with QBs.
Sports Illustrated making fun of TTUN and Harbaugh.
Sports Illustrated making fun of TTUN and Harbaugh.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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They were 25-25-1 in the years prior to Stalions. This explains why US Integrity is a part of the investigation per the B1G's letter to TTUN.Multiple unconfirmed reports are suggesting the Michigan football program is now being investigated for gambling-related infractions.
Michigan had a 19-6-1 record ATS in 2021-22 when Matt Weiss was with the team, but just 5-4-1 this year.
If coaches and/or players were profiting off of this spying scandal it takes it to a whole new level.
FYI, Weiss was the staffer fired for "computer crimes" and why the FBI is involved in this whole mess.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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UCLA is going to fire Chip Kelly after the USC game.
Chip's NOT into recruiting. That's mainly why he left Oregon. He's a guy who should be running offenses, but not a head coach or anything.
Chip's NOT into recruiting. That's mainly why he left Oregon. He's a guy who should be running offenses, but not a head coach or anything.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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OrSt and WSU win the Pac-12.
Good for them. They were the ones that got left behind. They should get what's left.
Good for them. They were the ones that got left behind. They should get what's left.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Leisher wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:15 am OrSt and WSU win the Pac-12.
Good for them. They were the ones that got left behind. They should get what's left.
That would be hilarious, but then make everyone hate them.. The departing schools, as they did in writing earlier this month, expressed concern that OSU and WSU could withhold revenue set to be distributed during this academic year.
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They won't do that as such a petty move could really bite them in the ass later, but it would be funny.
I fully expect one of the midtier West coast based conferences, like the Mountain West, to now dissolve and all its members move to the Pac-12. In fact, if they maintain legit voting power and status as a P5, which I doubt will happen, they could draw in a biggish name or two.
Cake, look away. I want to vent.
For example: Considering TTUN leadership actually had a meeting to discuss if they should leave the B1G if Harbaugh was suspended (because how DARE the B1G actually defend the integrity of the game and punish them for cheating!), this would be such a perfect on brand destination for them. They could win this conference every year and rack up those wins against lower opposition, which is how their entire claim of "we'll be the first to 1000 wins" was built.
FYI, that happens this weekend when they beat Maryland. And assuredly again in a few years when they get to 1000 a second time after all of their wins from the last three years are vacated. Of course, by then OSU and Alabama, programs with much shorter histories (and both with more NCAA titles in the last 70 years...by a lot), are very likely to have caught up with them.
For fun, let's look at some of TTUN's 1000 wins:
Yep. TTUN played LITERAL high schools and count those wins among their 999. Just don't ask them about all time win percentage. They hate that.
They also hate it if you ask them about stats from 1950 to the present. It gets ugly. Turns out, it was a lot easier to dominate during the era of leather helmets and before the forward pass. If you only count 1950 on, they lose the rivalry to OSU, they lose a huge percentage of their wins, only 19 bowl wins (shockingly, only 21 bowl wins since football began), and one split national title.
The only school ever to be kicked out of the B1G for breaking rules.
Of course, there's also this bit of trivia regarding the school with the most integrity in the NCAA... (Where will they rank after this latest scandal?)
I get loving and defending your team, but a large percentage of their fans are so blinded by sheer arrogance that it's maddening. I do not understand where it comes from. How can you consistently claim you're one of the top programs and have more integrity than anyone else?
Michigan is the Donald Trump of college football programs.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Fun stat that further proves TTUN's statement that their coaches didn't know anything Stalions was doing: 
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Cry more.
But seriously, how different is our schedule from back then from other schools back then? Was that just what football was, or were we seeking out easy games? And if that's just what football was back then, it is what it is! That was the game, and we were AWESOME at it!! Don't hate the players, hate the game!
And why the 1950's forward? Was there a fundamental change in the game, or is that just when you guys figured shit out and got better so you only want to look at those years? That's probably what it is. . . Don't cherry pick the years that make you look good!
Banter isn't very fun right now. . .
But at the same time, those were serious questions. Was that just football in the 1800's, and was there a change that changed the game in the 50's?
As far as the current cheating stuff. . . I keep hearing "Harbaugh didn't know about it. He just thought Stalions was really good at quickly deciphering the other teams' signals". I also keep hearing how sign stealing is illegal and other teams aren't being investigated cause everyone is just jealous and hates Michigan. I've given up trying to explain things. It would be easier to get a D to vote R.
For the sanctions thing, I wanted to see where the Penn State stuff would have fallen. 111 (112?) wins vacated over 12-13 seasons. But it looks like they bought the wins back for $60 million? I was still under the impression they lost those wins.
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Yes, professional leagues became much more popular post WW2, and college programs became more structured as well. the 50's and 60s were huge from NFL growth.Cakedaddy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:53 pm And why the 1950's forward? Was there a fundamental change in the game, or is that just when you guys figured shit out and got better so you only want to look at those years? That's probably what it is. . . Don't cherry pick the years that make you look good!
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What Catt said. The vast, vast majority of college football teams didn't exist and there was no real structure to it. Honestly, football wasn't even important. I know it was considered an intermural sport at OSU forever.
In your defense, you're not alone in such things. The greatest example is the Montreal Canadians and all of their titles pre-league expansion. There were 8 teams and the rules were completely ridiculous. Look them up. You will laugh at how lopsided they were in favor of the Canadian teams, particularly Montreal. Michigan's domination of football before it really existed is the same type of empty brag. I mean, they were thrown out of the B1G for not adhering to the rules, particularly when playing OSU and MSU.
So, while I don't really hold history against you, because it is what it is, those pre-actual sanctioned football with real rules, organization, and the forward pass have to be taken with a massive grain of salt.
In your defense, you're not alone in such things. The greatest example is the Montreal Canadians and all of their titles pre-league expansion. There were 8 teams and the rules were completely ridiculous. Look them up. You will laugh at how lopsided they were in favor of the Canadian teams, particularly Montreal. Michigan's domination of football before it really existed is the same type of empty brag. I mean, they were thrown out of the B1G for not adhering to the rules, particularly when playing OSU and MSU.
So, while I don't really hold history against you, because it is what it is, those pre-actual sanctioned football with real rules, organization, and the forward pass have to be taken with a massive grain of salt.
I am with you there. I'm amazed at how people are so willing to believe bullshit. Human nature though...Cakedaddy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:53 pm As far as the current cheating stuff. . . I keep hearing "Harbaugh didn't know about it. He just thought Stalions was really good at quickly deciphering the other teams' signals". I also keep hearing how sign stealing is illegal and other teams aren't being investigated cause everyone is just jealous and hates Michigan. I've given up trying to explain things. It would be easier to get a D to vote R.
That's interesting and I have no idea. Were those wins actually vacated? That would have put them at the top of the list I posted and they aren't there. I wonder if PSU instead just erased Joe Pa and Sandusky from their history and paid money to the victims and that was that?
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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I read headlines only. Early headlines read "Penn State has 112 wins vacated from 1998 to 2011" or close to that. Later headlines read "Joe Pa winningest coach again as 112 wins are reinstated. Penn State paying $60 million into anti-abuse programs in Pennsylvania."
As far as historical wins. . . I'll keep 'em. That was just the game back then. Not my fault OSU didn't take it seriously! You can take solace knowing that you will probably surpass us during our life times. Hopefully, we aren't talking to each other by then.
As far as historical wins. . . I'll keep 'em. That was just the game back then. Not my fault OSU didn't take it seriously! You can take solace knowing that you will probably surpass us during our life times. Hopefully, we aren't talking to each other by then.
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There was a lawsuit, and the settlement was to restore the wins. There had been a $60M fine already, it was converted into anti-abuse programs. Scholarships were also reinstated, along with post-season eligibility.
In 2012, the NCAA vacated all of Penn State's wins from 1998 through 2011 as part of its punishment.[12] State Senator Jake Corman used the Freeh report as a basis to sue the NCAA, asserting that both Freeh and the NCAA had collaborated and failed to follow due process. Corman released emails showing "regular and substantive" contact between NCAA officials and Freeh's investigators, suggesting that Freeh's conclusions were orchestrated.[13] In a 2015 legal settlement with Penn State, the NCAA reversed its decision and restored all 111 wins to Paterno's record.[14][15]
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