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Leisher wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:03 pm

TheCatt wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:28 am It's plausible that Stalions followed BC on insta, and decided it was a good name, since he's so UofM obsessed and just put his name there.

Blake Corum used the LLC name in a hashtag on insta a few weeks after the LLC was created by stallions

Ah. Maybe he was inceptioned by Stalions

Ha!

There's actually been a lot of talk of TTUN suing the B1G to stop any potential punishment, but that's also been called a bluff because TTUN wouldn't want to get to the discovery phase. I might be very wrong here, so correct me if I am, but the B1G and NCAA have no legal search authority, so their ability to find things is limited. However, doing discovery as part of a lawsuit carries the power of the actual law meaning Connor Stalions can no longer just refuse to cooperate and TTUN would have to turn over everything.

I don't think TTUN, or honestly ANY college, would want to be forced to do that.

TheCatt wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:25 pm

Leisher wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:03 pm

TheCatt wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:28 am It's plausible that Stalions followed BC on insta, and decided it was a good name, since he's so UofM obsessed and just put his name there.

Blake Corum used the LLC name in a hashtag on insta a few weeks after the LLC was created by stallions

Ah. Maybe he was inceptioned by Stalions

By the way, not sure if it was mentioned in my earlier post, but in Wyoming filing false documents is a felony. Point being, if Corum was added without his knowledge, then Stalions faces felon charges.

I've got to admit that I truly feel bad for SOME of the TTUN players and fans (not all because you know at any school there will be scumbag players and fans willing to break rules), but after hearing my whole life the bullshit "we're intellectually and morally superior" to everyone else line from TTUN fans (except those like Cake), this is very entertaining to watch.

Just to be clear, I have always felt we were superior. I'm pretty pissed and embarrassed that we aren't. More pissed that we aren't owning it. Because, you know, owning it would make us morally and intellectually superior because no one else does. We are currently no better than anyone else. And that sucks. Being superior is better.

At this point, I have more respect for how OSU handled their scandals than how we are handling ours. And that really sucks.

But as I've said before. Maybe this is all just a big misunderstanding and we didn't really do anything wrong and we own Harbaugh an apology. Just like, every time I buy a lottery ticket, maybe I'll win the jackpot. . .

This is one of the reasons I truly respect you as a fan. You're very honest about your team. I, like you, have no illusions whatsoever about my team very probably breaking rules here and there. To this extent? I'd be shocked as you are with them.

And oddly, you mad me rethink OSU's scandals, and you're right. They did just own them, and I guess I'm prouder of them now for that.

The SEC should be like "Michigan, come to us, we won't punish shit."

TheCatt wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:50 pm Unread post by TheCatt » 08 Nov 2023 17:50

I think Saban would furiously masturbate thinking about beating Harbaugh every year.

However, I think no matter what Harbaugh is gone. His extension was apparently never put back on the table, despite rumors, as he hasn't signed it. I think he sucks at recruiting, and I don't blame him. It seems like the worst part of the job. I know he hates TTUN's AD and that feeling is mutual. Most of the boosters hate Harbaugh as a person, including some pretty powerful ones. His list of coaches available for him to hire seems to be thinning badly, and that's a huge problem in the college ranks. Remember, his brother has lent him multiple coaches now. TTUN is certainly facing some serious violations going forward. They lose a ton of talent after this year (as does OSU). There are going to be some very good jobs available in the NFL. His reputation going forward, even if they win the natty this year, is irreparable. Honestly, so is TTUN's brand until they fire the entire staff and pay their penance.

The dude has already tried bolting twice, including saying his goodbyes last year until a TTUN booster with ties to Minnesota stopped him from getting that job because he hates Harbaugh. No way is he sticking around to further be dragged through the mud and also play with both hands tied behind his back by the looming NCAA sanctions.

TTUN responds to B1G.

That article contains a big list of politicians who want you to know that they're ok with cheating.

I really do not understand why so many TTUN fans want "due process respected". First of all, none of them said shit about due process when OSU was in trouble or when MSU players got suspended DURING an investigation. Harbaugh demanded those suspensions publicly and at least one of the kids was found to be innocent. Where were these concerns about due process then?

Do they really think anyone outside of Ann Arbor is going to respect any titles they win? Do they really think everything won't be vacated? The FBI, local police, the B1G, and the NCAA all are investigating your football program.

I said this before, but it wouldn't shock me if TTUN got bent over and assfucked by the refs at PSU this weekend. They fucked with Vegas' money, the CFP doesn't want them in with their controversy, the NCAA is still livid about Harbaugh's cheeseburger narrative, and now TTUN is trying to claim they're bigger than the B1G. Basically, everyone in college sports, except Fox (they want OSU and TTUN in the CFP), wants TTUN eliminated from the CFP at this point.

"It is essential that the Big Ten Conference not take any disciplinary action against the University of Michigan until the final results of its own or, more appropriately, the NCAA investigation are officially announced," part of the letter read.

Why? Seriously? Why? This isn't essential at all.

TheCatt wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:17 pm

"It is essential that the Big Ten Conference not take any disciplinary action against the University of Michigan until the final results of its own or, more appropriately, the NCAA investigation are officially announced," part of the letter read.

Why? Seriously? Why? This isn't essential at all.

Because if we can just keep pushing things out past January. . .

They want to be able to play post season.

Cakedaddy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:52 pm Because if we can just keep pushing things out past January. . .

They want to be able to play post season.

Exactly. They know this team is their best shot to win a title they haven't won since they split with Colorado in 97. Their last solo title was in 1948 or something like that. Even if it gets vacated, which is inevitable, they want to be able to claim it. The rest of college football is "down" and they truly might have the best team. They also know this is Harbaugh's last year and they know that sanctions are going to remove any chance of them being competitive for another 5+ years. However, if they lose this weekend, you'll see a lot of bloom come off that rose. Or if they lose to OSU. Once they're out of the CFP, IF such a thing happens, then I think you'll see a lot of the "standing with the program" horseshit go away rapidly. Reality of what has taken place and what they now face will set in and Harbaugh will become a pariah. Ditto for Stalions who already has Corum publicly accusing him of a felony, which can't sit super well for a jock sniffer.

Cakedaddy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:52 pm Because if we can just keep pushing things out past January. . .

They want to be able to play post season.

I know. But NCAA football is so far from "essential"...

TheCatt wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:45 pm

Cakedaddy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:52 pm Because if we can just keep pushing things out past January. . .

They want to be able to play post season.

I know. But NCAA football is so far from "essential"...

It genuinely does really make you wonder about the college aspect of this all. Here's a college known for their medical school and to a lesser extent their law and business schools. All three have to have solid ethics classes.

Then you have their football team, which always brags about their high ethical standards.

So...what are we teaching the kids here? How is blatantly tossing aside ethics to win at football a great example for the future doctors, lawyers, and businesspeople? How did the football team take priority over education?

And I'm not just talking about Michigan. This sort of thing goes on at every campus in the nation.

No argument here.

I'm hearing those lawmakers are all Michigan alumni, and the common theme is they're acting faster here than they did for the citizens of Flint.

Leisher wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:42 am I'm hearing those lawmakers are all Michigan alumni, and the common theme is they're acting faster here than they did for the citizens of Flint.

lol. True.

Rutgers-Iowa is expected to a barn burner!

To be fair, I love defensive football games. The overall game is no longer there, but those Steelers-Ravens 9-6 hard hitting affairs were must watch TV.

That being said, while these are two very good defenses, neither team has a real strong offense. I'd argue Rutgers' O has shown signs of life, but anyone on this forum might be able to start for Iowa's.

Honestly, this alone is all the proof anyone needs that the cheating was effective and Harbaugh knew what was happening.

This is really what should piss Harbaugh off. This makes him look like a total fraud.

And at some point, do you think fanboy Stallions gets a bit sick of seeing all these people he worked with and for drag his name through the mud? No matter how strong someone is mentally, that shit takes a toll.

Leisher wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:23 pm Honestly, this alone is all the proof anyone needs that the cheating was effective and Harbaugh knew what was happening.

It was a pretty dramatic change. But it's not like that was the only variable. That being said, it sure does look bad.

It sure as hell wasn't the recruiting classes. They sucked.

It wasn't Gattis who left for The U and promptly had the worst offense in the nation after being named the OC of the year at TTUN.

It wasn't their DC, whose name I'm forgetting, who had 100+ ranked Ds at Vandy, and then came to TTUN and immediately become one of the best DCs in the nation working with Stalions.

It wasn't Harbaugh who is so not vested in the program that he's constantly trying to leave.

It isn't JJ whose stats are almost identical to Kyle McCord, who Buckeye fans want gone while JJ is being pitched as a Heisman candidate by TTUN. Also, his ratings have suddenly plunged the last two weeks. What changed? Hmmm... Weirdly, his O line has gotten exactly half as good at picking up blitzes as they used to be no more than two weeks ago. It's a mystery!

Listen, it's true that the players still have to play, but absolutely knowing what the opposing O or D is doing play by play is such a massive advantage. The last two years TTUN didn't beat OSU by grinding them down or outplaying them. They hit big plays constantly at perfect times against Knowles' D. Now we now how they were dialing up the perfect plays at the perfect times.