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Cakedaddy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 3:39 pm That is, assuming they really did all of this. . . .

That's not a question anymore. Connor Stalions left his fingerprints everywhere. There's videos all over Twitter showing him telling the OC and DC exactly what's coming.

Oh, and for fun, here's another story TTUN's beat writers had been covering up that is now seeing the light of day. And FYI, Yoder is a huge TTUN account and he's disgusted and calling out all the people who say on this additional scandal.

That's not a scandal.

The idiot's actions? No and the school acted properly immediately firing him. People sitting on the story and never publishing it? Not a great look for people now trying their hardest to defend all things TTUN. Of course their tactics for that can be summed up as "Everyone does it", "Ryan Day is a crybaby", and "It's not our fault you didn't change your signs".

However, all this year:
-That pedo.
-Hiring and firing of an openly racist staffer.
-The firing and now FBI investigation of former coach Weiss.
-Harbaugh lying to the NCAA.
-The recruiting violations investigation.
-Harbaugh pissing off the NCAA by pushing a narrative that it was about a cheeseburger.
-Stalions and the spying scandal being uncovered.

Apparently, after the coaches call and a call with ADs tonight, the B1G head is meeting with TTUN's president tomorrow to discuss the situation. The report says that the ADs demanded action on Harbaugh.

I've also heard his extension is back on the table because they amended language so they can cut ties with him without penalty based on what comes out of this spying scandal. There's also word out of TTUN that the plan is that both sides will go their separate ways after the season no matter what.

So this meeting tomorrow should be interesting. Does the B1G force TTUN to send Harbaugh packing now in exchange for them still being allowed to play?

Leisher wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:00 am People sitting on the story and never publishing it?

I'd need more details.

Leisher wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:00 am So this meeting tomorrow should be interesting. Does the B1G force TTUN to send Harbaugh packing now in exchange for them still being allowed to play?

Feel like it has to be more than Harbaugh. OC/DC?

TheCatt wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 6:45 am I'd need more details.

Unfortunately, all I have is James Yoder, a very well known TTUN personality, calling those folks out.

TheCatt wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 6:45 am Feel like it has to be more than Harbaugh. OC/DC?

I think the entire staff needs to go, but didn't think the team should be completely crippled. Although, in all honestly, fuck the kids too. They knew. I give them a little credit because they are kids and speaking up would be very tough, but still they shouldn't be completely forgiven for their role.

I figured Harbaugh would be a good sacrifice to show they're taking it all seriously, but still allowing the team to compete.

I'm actually offended we're not in there.

TTUN wants due process respected in the face of overwhelming evidence.

Hilarious considering Harbaugh demanded immediate punishment for MSU players a year or two ago before any investigation was done. FYI, the resulting investigation found at least one player completely innocent, but he had already been suspended. So, yeah...

It's pretty clear what TTUN is doing. They think they have a real shot at the national championship. They're willing to throw everything away to try and get it. To them it won't matter that everything gets vacated later. They'll claim the title no matter what. Harbaugh will be gone. Most of the players will be gone. All other coaches will be gone. And I'll bet the AD will be gone too. Plus, their program will be facing scholarship losses and postseason ban, but like the false claims about a cheeseburger, they'll continue to pretend they're the victims. They're probably also hoping that the NCAA loses all power before they get a chance to act. (That is coming.)

Not sure I really even blame them. This is where our society is at this point.

What will be interesting is to see if the B1G and NCAA play this a different way. With TTUN clearly thumbing their nose at them, well, there are other ways to ensure they don't get what they want.

Leisher wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 2:42 am well, there are other ways to ensure they don't get what they want.

Are you talking about murder?

Cakedaddy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 7:20 pm

Leisher wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 2:42 am well, there are other ways to ensure they don't get what they want.

Are you talking about murder?

I mean, I'm fine if that's the route they go.

I was more implying that perhaps TTUN doesn't get some calls in a close game against PSU and or OSU. Maybe they even get left out of the B1G championship game by the league even if they're undefeated. Then a one loss TTUN doesn't get any love from the CFP committee due to all the impending sanctions.

It was interesting that this was the first week a TTUN opponent would have had time to change some signals and be aware of everything and they scored more points on TTUN than anyone else. Also, TTUN failed to cover for the first time this year.

Really weird that the 8-0 #3 team in the nation didn't sell out their stadium today. I think a lot of TTUN fans are of the same mindset as Cake and are not celebrating what's been going on.

USC fires Alex Grinch.

I mean, they had to right? Dude's D is giving up tons of points weekly.

He coached at OSU for one year and I remember people couldn't get him out of the building fast enough. I think it was one of OSU's worst defensive years ever.

The NCAA has joined the CMU investigation.

Considering it's been a week and CMU cannot identify the staffer, who was on their sidelines for their game against MSU, that looks exactly like Connor Stalions wearing sunglasses with a recording device in them, the NCAA getting involved makes sense. It's also going to get more interesting because he was credentialed. That means a member of TTUN's staff was given credentials to stand on CMU's sidelines, dressed in CMU gear, during a game against a B1G opponent.

TTUN is threatening legal action to get this blocked, but I'm not sure they have that right due to their contract with the conference?

A few days ago Zach Smith made up a story about Ryan Day hiring his brother's PI firm to sneak into Michigan and steal evidence of their sign stealing program.

Moronic TTUN fans (obviously a small subset) actually bought this as a legit story and have been talking about Day being hit with RICO charges. So many bought into it that the NCAA had to come out and say that Day has no connection to this scandal.

Again, the initial report to the NCAA came from two HCs who had already played TTUN this year.

People love conspiracy theories.

JMU re-appeals 2 year FCS FBS transition.

Honestly, I've never understood why the rule exists?

TTUN attempts to muddy the waters with bullshit.

Notice this strategy is not "We're innocent", it's "They do it too!"

FYI:
-It's not illegal to share information, including signs with other programs.
-Using TTUN's own claims against them, "All schools do this."
-According to the report where this all came from, one of the schools that does this sort of information sharing the most is...TTUN.
-This type of intel is very unreliable.
-According to the B1G (or at least screenshots I've seen) this type of info sharing does not violate the fair sportsmanship clause for the B1G.


The difference here is sign stealing IN GAME without the use of electronic devices is legal. Sharing that info is legal.

Advance scouting of opponents for three years using film to grab their signals and then match then up with on the field plays so you know EXACTLY what their signs mean is NOT legal. Making large laminated cheat sheets to hold on the sideline during the game is NOT legal. Pretending to be on the staff for a different school so you can film their B1G opponent from their sideline is NOT legal.

Hey look, Connor Stalions and TTUN RB Blake Corum own a business together. I'm sure Corum knew nothing of CS' spying program. Nor did any of the coaches he was standing next to during game while telling them exactly what the opposing team was doing. Corum has denied being involved in this LLC and says his lawyers are looking into it. This is despite him having IG pictures advertising it two years ago. Meanwhile, the third guy has been tied to Stalions spying campaign. What could get interesting is the $500K house they purchased. A $55K staffer, an unpaid college football player, and this third guy?

So Corum is blatantly lying. How did they buy the house? The third guy participating in the spying, but Corum didn't know? Can anyone at TTUN just fess up? You're caught. Show some of that integrity we have heard about forever. Bo would not be proud of the culture there right now.

It's plausible that Stalions followed BC on insta, and decided it was a good name, since he's so UofM obsessed and just put his name there.

TheCatt wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:28 am It's plausible that Stalions followed BC on insta, and decided it was a good name, since he's so UofM obsessed and just put his name there.

Blake Corum used the LLC name in a hashtag on insta a few weeks after the LLC was created by stallions