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TheCatt wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:28 am
GORDON wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:26 am
TheCatt wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:50 am Went to a concert last night from 5pm to 11pm... did I miss anything?
A whole bunch of psychos went on Facebook with their real names and celebrated attempted murder.
Bitches be crazy.
Tribalism is a hell of a drug.
Troy wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:04 am and something like a mini Civil War erupted.
I really hope this moment calms the sides down, but I doubt it. Last night on CNN, a talking head I didn't recognize went on a rant about how the constant messaging of "the sky is falling if Trump gets elected" and the enabling of political violence, like we saw in 2020, or the softball game shooting, Jan 6th, or the attempt on the life of a SCOTUS judge has led us to the point. It's led us to where people think the only option to prevent "the end of democracy" is violence. Wolf Blitzer was quick to do the "both sides" comment.

I personally think it's our politicians, their MSM cronies, and social media. "The War on Women". "The War on Democracy". "Trump Promises a Bloodbath". "Trump Says He'll be a Dictator".

We all fall into traps like this where we see one side or the other doing things that we know lead down bad paths, but the mentally unbalanced will act on this shit. We absolutely need to condemn political violence no matter when it happens.
GORDON wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:43 am No one appears to know what the motive was. Who said he was antifa, before?

I saw he was registered republican, but he'd donated to dem stuff. I have family who registered as republicans so they can try to fuck up primary elections.
He was a registered R, but that means nothing. Like you point out, many do it to fuck with primaries. Plus, two years is a long time. We're talking family influence and then heading to college/spending time on the internet. Remember the Pelosi attacker was a far left person who we were told was radicalized by the extreme right in a very short period. Hell, I live with two people who have completely radicalized to the point that I hear "They're taking all our rights away" on a daily basis, and that came about simply through TikTok. It happens very easily.
Troy wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:54 am Think he might have been one of those Q-anon Republican types. Swing so far over they become anti trump.
You're saying the extreme right is anti-Trump? Well, the left leaning Rs are called RINOs and they're anti-Trump. We the hell are the Trump supporters then? Ds? :D
GORDON wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:59 am The AR is the base model of the M-16. Small round, supersonic. Good range if used correctly. For me, a headshot with regular, open sights, and a stable prone position (like laying on a roof), and apparently he had all day to sight in according to the BBC interview, would have been a sure thing at anything less than 150 yards. I wouldn't even need a scope. Only a strong wind would matter much at that range.
As I pointed out last night, watch the video closely. I think Trump saved himself with a head turn.

Also, there are a lot of questions that need to be answered like:
-How did that guy get access to that position?
-A dude carrying a rifle outside this event didn't raise any flags?
-He had a scoped rifle and still missed with 6 shots. I wish he were still alive today to hear the people mocking him from both sides of the political spectrum.
-Why were the reports to police of his activity ignored?
-Why did Biden's WH deny the constant requests for additional SS resources for Trump's detail? (His detail made those requests, not Trump.)
-Why did CNN say on air AFTER THE SHOOTING that the Trump team's claims that there is a danger for an incident like this one were unfounded?
-Why did the female SS agents come off looking so bad last night?
GORDON wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 11:03 am I keep hearing about "Project 2025"
Blatant propaganda. Seriously, anyone mentioning this is either intentionally lying or showing you how deep they are in echo chambers.

Project 2025 has nothing to do with Trump or his campaign. This type of rhetoric is why the shooting happened.
Troy wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 11:12 am “The shooter was a Republican that leaned left, about an inch to the left”

Not mine, but good.


Ha!
GORDON wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 11:15 am I literally saw it a few minutes before I posted it. I think it was MSNBC... the headline was, "Trump has exposed his weakness." I thought, "His ear?" I clicked on it, and it was all about P2025, and how Trump is doing it.
MSNBC is complete propaganda and they should lose their right to claim "press". It takes two seconds of googling to see where Project 2025 originated, the purpose of it, how this is done for every R president going back decades, how none of them listen to it, and how Trump has disavowed it. Reporting it as Trump's is malicious and the intent is to sway voters.
GORDON wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:46 pm It didn't damage his brain as far as we know, so he prolly won't become woke.
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FYI, I have seen where the shooter donated to ActBlue on Biden's inauguration day. Also, Pennsylvania is a closed primaries state and they recently had an active campaign for their voters to register as Rs for the aforementioned purpose of fucking up the R primaries.
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Yup. My relatives registered R and voted for trump way back in the primaries, figuring Hillary could beat him easy.

Then Trump won and those same relatives went off the deep end and damaged a lot of family relationships, apparently permanently. They still skip most family gatherings.
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I was curious, and peeked at reddit for the first time in...... 6 months?

Full of "republicans are so evil they both support trump and try to kill him because the shooter was clearly a republican any anyone who says otherwise is an enemy operative."

So.... oof. Poison brains.
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Tribalism is a hell of a drug.
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"We're still trying to figure out the shooter's motivations."
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Going to dinner with my gf and mother, tonight. I haven't talked to either of them about trump. If they bring it up, I'm going to feign ignorance, and disbelief.
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*surprise* “ Oh, that was yesterday? You know, I never did hear how that turned out. Oh well, we’ll just have to get him next time”
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I think it’s a good idea to wait for motive until they find his 4chan, Reddit, or Discord server.
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Leisher wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 2:26 pm FYI, I have seen where the shooter donated to ActBlue on Biden's inauguration day.
That was 3.5 years ago. He would have been 16 or 17. X = Doubt.
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GORDON wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:58 pm Going to dinner with my gf and mother, tonight. I haven't talked to either of them about trump. If they bring it up, I'm going to feign ignorance, and disbelief.
GF asked why I like to push buttons.

Mom said I take after my grandfather in that respect.
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TheCatt wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:04 pm
Leisher wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 2:26 pm FYI, I have seen where the shooter donated to ActBlue on Biden's inauguration day.
That was 3.5 years ago. He would have been 16 or 17. X = Doubt.
Who knows? Donations like that are a matter of public record, so we'll see.

Could be true. Could be false. Could be someone donated in his name. Who knows?

I wish they didn't kill him so we'd know for sure. Now we'll just get each side claiming he was a member of the other.
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Could be someone with the same name.
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CNN says it was him.
A 20-year-old living in a crucial swing state, Crooks had already shown potential signs of interest in politics, making a small political donation as a teenager and registering to vote just a week after he turned 18.
So the "register as the other party to fuck up their primaries" theory has weight.

CNN also just said he had a transmitter on him and his car seemed to have explosives in the trunk. (In their "Live Updates" feed.)
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Read some of the interviews of this guy from his classmates.

He was a gun enthusiast(shirt he was wearing) and “was always on the side of conservative politics” - a classmate.

He does not sound like a secret democratic activist. Prepare for disappointment.

“The majority of the class were on the liberal side, but Tom, no matter what, always stood his ground on the conservative side,” Smith said. “That’s still the picture I have of him. Just standing alone on one side while the rest of the class was on the other.”
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Troy wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:21 am Prepare for disappointment.
You might be disappointed to know that I will not be disappointed by anything we learn. I don't give two fucks what he is, I'm just posting what's been reported.

He could be D (his mom), he could be R (RINO), he could be an L (his dad), and was simply thought of as conservative because he was right of his liberal friends. (They do tend to think anyone not in lock step with them are Hitler... :D ) Hell, he could be a Trump supporter who wanted to martyr Trump to bring about a civil war. He could just simply be someone who wanted to be noticed or wanted to create chaos. Or maybe he thought this would make Jodie Foster fall in love with him.

I want to know his motives. His political affiliation, unless with a domestic terrorist group, aren't going to reveal them.
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This kid was definitely a deep state operative. In on the genius plot to make trump look like a hero. Trump was in on it, was mentally ready for the first pump.

In fact, he wasn't hit by the bullet. The implanted micro explosive in his ear lobe was triggered with the gunshots, which deliberately went wide.

And as I said, the kid had to be killed to ensure his silence. Hed seen faces. He knew things.
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GORDON wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:35 pm This kid was definitely a deep state operative. In on the genius plot to make trump look like a hero. Trump was in on it, was mentally ready for the first pump.

In fact, he wasn't hit by the bullet. The implanted micro explosive in his ear lobe was triggered with the gunshots, which deliberately went wide.

And as I said, the kid had to be killed to ensure his silence. Hed seen faces. He knew things.
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It's not a CT, it's an obvious fact. He tried to kill the one he loved like a jilted lover.

That's not ridiculous, you're ridiculous! Half of people believe that!
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Lots of speculation. Lots of trying to twist things into a reality that matches our biases.

Most simple explanation is, he didn't like Trump and tried to kill him. People typically don't try to murder those they like.

Without further facts, any speculation past that is mental gymnastics.

The act of cold-blooded murder is typically classified as mentally aberrant. Twisting yourself into a reality where murdering someone is seen as a good thing is mentally aberrant. If he was a "I love him so much I gotta show him how much by shooting him," he's mentally aberrant. Any peeps going on line with "aww shucks, use better aim next time" are celebrating attempted murder, and are mentally aberrant.

Murder bad. Embrace that, because we're trying to have a civilization, here.
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