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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:37 pm
by GORDON
TheCatt wrote:I guess we should keep them away from TV, indoor plumbing, radio, newspapers, and other fancy tech too.
This is an unfair characterization of what I said. I never suggested to strip down to wedges, levers, and inclined planes. I just suggested that learning happens between good teachers, and good students. I suggested toys need not be involved, and may in fact hinder the process, but that last bit is just a hypothesis of mine and I have not yet done studies to find evidence.
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:07 pm
by TPRJones
I just suggested that learning happens between good teachers, and good students
Correct.
I would go so far as to say too much tech at too young an age is actually detrimental to intellectual development.
Wrong!
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:09 pm
by GORDON
TPRJones wrote:I would go so far as to say too much tech at too young an age is actually detrimental to intellectual development.
Wrong!
Prove it.
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:10 pm
by TPRJones
Not necessary, you are the one making the specific claim. It's your job to prove it.
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:13 pm
by GORDON
TPRJones wrote:Not necessary, you are the one making the specific claim. It's your job to prove it.
You mean, after I said it was just a hypothesis and I hadn't done the necessary research to gather evidence? That isn't enough of a disclaimer? You were so excited with your use of exclamation marks and whatnot that I thought you had something conclusive to say. Guess not.
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:30 pm
by TPRJones
Nope, mine is just as much opinion as yours. Never claimed otherwise.
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:36 pm
by GORDON
TPRJones wrote:Nope, mine is just as much opinion as yours. Never claimed otherwise.
But you added an exclamation mark. That implies you feel really adamant about something.
And yeah, at this point I am just fucking around.
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:42 pm
by TPRJones
I do feel really adamant about it.
If you had said that too much technology can be detrimental to development of memory, there I would would have agreed. But other than a few key situations where memory is very important because there's likely no time to look at reference (surgery, space travel, etc), memory is relatively unimportant. What is important is the ability to collate data for conceptual understanding and reaching new conclusions. And there I feel very strongly that technology can provide huge opportunities in learning how to think clearly and well.
Does it always? No. But even then it's no worse than reading crappy pulp fiction or watching TV or any other form of cheap entertainment devoid of learning opportunities. That doesn't make you stupider; missing opportunities is unfortunate, but not the same as doing damage to your potential. The potential is still there.
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:43 pm
by GORDON
Feelings are for cattle and loveplay.
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:44 pm
by TPRJones
Why must you separate those?
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:47 pm
by GORDON
Are you suggesting loveplay with cattle?
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:57 pm
by TheCatt
Technology should be used to multiply the effect of good teachers across a broader base of students. Most teaching (lectures) are just a recitation of facts in a book, with many of the facts repeated ad infinitum because of the one stupid kid who keeps raising his hand and saying "What?"
Technology should be used to personalize, and either accelerate or decelerate learning to the point of the child.
Keeping technology out of classrooms will make people who are unfamiliar with technology. It's a TOOL. If people use it poorly, or use poorly-designed technology, then yes, it can harm learning. But like every other piece of technology ever, there's two sides to it, and technology is generally a Good Thing.
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:24 pm
by TPRJones
GORDON just wants us all to be Amish.
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:41 pm
by GORDON
TPRJones wrote:GORDON just wants us all to be Amish.
Yes. Also, give small children lots of caffeine because it speeds them up and has no ill effects on their development.
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:25 pm
by TPRJones
Caffeinated children was once the leading cause of exhausted parents. But as far as I know that's the only danger.
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:27 am
by thibodeaux
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:58 am
by thibodeaux
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:24 am
by TheCatt
Cannot load page.
*edit* nevermind, just took a long time.
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:27 am
by TheCatt
Oh wow, I like him. He's more quote-worthy than Jobs.
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:50 am
by GORDON
Inside of many liberals is a fascist struggling to get out. - jmc 1993