Diet....contest?

Post by **TheCatt** » Wed May 09, 2012 4:29 pm

Thanks... I look down, and there's certainly more belly than I'd like still, but hey - I'm not 1/3rd fat any more.

Post by **TheCatt** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:20 pm

TheCatt wrote:Today I hit the big 4-0. 40.4 pounds lost in just under 4 months. According to my spreadsheet, I'm trying to lose 8.6 more pounds by July 4th. Doesn't seem that will be a problem.

Well, i kinda gave up for summer (if eating pretzels m&ms on top of ice cream = giving up)... gained back about 15 pounds.

I've dropped 8 of those... body fat went from 33% to 24%, weight from 241 to 208.

This past weekend, I rode a 50 mile charity ride in 3 hours flat (no drafting!). 9 months ago, I couldn't walk around a grocery store without having to lay down the rest of the day due to knee pain (Thanks Celebrex!).

Post by **TheCatt** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:33 pm

Skipped lunch yesterday. I had meetings scheduled back to back, not enough time to get out for lunch. I was really hungry for about 30 minutes, then it just dissipated. But man dinner tasted REALLY good.

I read about Intermittent Fasting, but every thing I read feels like someone trying to sell me something. Hard to find any real science. But that would mean skipping breakfast, and eating around working out (late afternoon). That would be a pretty hard habit for me to break.

Post by **TPRJones** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:37 pm

What about "breakfast is the most important meal of the day?"

Post by **TheCatt** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:27 pm

TPRJones wrote:What about "breakfast is the most important meal of the day?"

Apparently not true, except when you replace breakfast by eating crap later in the day.

According to some people at least. I dunno, the whole topic seems to be filled with crappy studies.

Post by **thibodeaux** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:28 pm

http://bluntobject.wordpress.com/2012....ure-fat

http://www.leangains.com/search/label/Research

I have regularly not eaten "breakfast" for the last couple of years. To be more specific: I eat a post-supper snack before 8pm, then don't eat again til around 11am the next day, making my overnight fast around 10-11 hours. Seems to work OK. That said, I *do* hit the caffeine pretty hard all morning.

I've been doing a sort of leangains approach since January: intense lifting for 30-40 minutes, 3 times per week. On lift days, eating about 2600 calories, and on rest days about 2000 calories. Basically: on lift days, eating like an extra 200g of starch (rice, potatoes). By June I was down to 175 lbs (I'm 6'4", so that's pretty skinny), and maybe 11% or 12% body fat. Starting in July I decided I'd try to bulk up, so I basically quit counting calories and ate like a pig (lots of sugary low-fat yogurt, cheese, milk, more rice, etc). I'm now at about 190lbs, and maybe 14% or 15% body fat. But I'm also a bit stronger: I was benching maybe 150 in early summer, and last week I did a 1 rep max of 185. So, I got that going for me.

I want to start recomping again and see if I can keep the muscles but lose some of the fat.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:43 pm

TPRJones wrote:What about "breakfast is the most important meal of the day?"

Complete bullshit. Unless you happen to be doing significant physical activity between breakfast and lunch.

Post by **TPRJones** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:50 pm

Oh. But breakfast is my favorite. I usually skip dinner instead. That bad?

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:01 pm

TPRJones wrote:Oh. But breakfast is my favorite. I usually skip dinner instead. That bad?

That depends quite a bit on your activity schedule and desired results throughout the day.

Post by **thibodeaux** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:02 pm

TPRJones wrote:Oh. But breakfast is my favorite. I usually skip dinner instead. That bad?

Whatever makes you feel good, man. I find that continuing the fast through the morning fits better with my routine, but I don't think it matters. I *do* think it matters how long the fast is; like, you get better fat burning if it extends past 12 hours, and if you do some low-intensity exercise like walking after the 12 hour point, you can really kick in the fat burning.

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:32 pm

I have decided to just have my head implanted to a killer robot body. It will have the strength of a bear that has the strength of two bears.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:00 pm

I suppose if you're not hitting the strength training, the fasting thing works. If you're doing real work, I'd think you'd want some fuel in you, though. Isn't the body apt to burn more calories if it's certain there's more in reserve, and tries to be more efficient as energy resources dwindle?

Post by **thibodeaux** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:22 pm

I lift fasted.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:52 pm

thibodeaux wrote:I lift fasted.

During morning or night?

EDIT: I get about half the week where I get a chance to eat beforehand and half without the chance. I notice a marked difference.

Edited By Malcolm on 1348613641

Post by **thibodeaux** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:55 pm

Morning. I drink a coke and lift first thing, around 7 or 8 AM. The leangains people recommend chugging some branch-chain amino acids (BCAA), but I don't think it matters to me. I really think once you train your body/metabolism to lift fasted, it's no longer a problem.

Some people DO worry about going catabolic if you don't eat soon enough after you lift, but I also don't really worry about it. Honestly, probably about 75% of looking good/being healthy is diet, 20% is exercise, and the rest is tweakage.

IMHO. YMMV.

Post by **TheCatt** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:16 pm

Kinda fast lifted yesterday... Ate breakfast @8am, lifted at 4:30pm, ate a bunch of protein after.

Tried to buy BCAAs at Walmart. We'll see.

Whenever I read most of the people all I can think is "you juice"

Post by **thibodeaux** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:03 pm

They got BCAA at walmart? How much?

Post by **TheCatt** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:24 pm

thibodeaux wrote:They got BCAA at walmart? How much?

Heh, no. They just have protein powder. They have it online, but not at the one near me.

Post by **GORDON** » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:13 pm

This guy says that a genetic change to wheat in the last 50 years is producing a protein called gliadin that attaches to the opiate receptors in the brain and actually stimulates hunger, which has leads people to wanting to consume more calories per day, thus gaining weight.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-50....or-says

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:41 pm

"If three people lost eight pounds, big deal," he said. "But we're seeing hundreds of thousands of people losing 30, 80, 150 pounds. Diabetics become no longer diabetic; people with arthritis having dramatic relief. People losing leg swelling, acid reflux, irritable bowel syndrome, depression, and on and on every day."

Wow. Does it do your taxes, mow your lawn, and suck your dick after a shitty day at work, too?

To avoid these wheat-oriented products, Davis suggests eating "real food," such as avocados, olives, olive oil, meats, and vegetables. "(It's) the stuff that is least likely to have been changed by agribusiness," he said.

Wow.

Meats: I'm not even going to go into how much commercial farming has fucked with raising herds of [whatever] for slaughter.

Vegetables: Pesticides, genetic engineering. All your seed are belong to us.

That doctor sounds dim.