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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:39 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:I think I am at the point where my disdain for Democrats is not enough to keep me voting for Republicans.
Every single election is Kang v. Kodos.

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:46 pm
by GORDON
I can't in good consciousness vote for either of those parties. Time to start wasting my vote on independents.

Or... can one un-register to vote? At least then no more jury duty summons.

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:59 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:Or... can one un-register to vote? At least then no more jury duty summons.

I've looked into that. The short and long answers are "no, unless you give up citizenship or are otherwise ineligible." It's kind of like the mafia, the only way out is to die or make them want you to leave.




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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:00 pm
by GORDON
Wonder what happens if you have someone report you as dead to the local election board. Wonder how far it would spread before it caused you real problems.

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:03 pm
by Troy
Pick your favorite felony, I guess?

e: oh that's a state by state thing




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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:14 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:Wonder what happens if you have someone report you as dead to the local election board. Wonder how far it would spread before it caused you real problems.
That should immediately put you under suspicion because it shows you give a fuck about voting and think it matters.

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:50 pm
by Malcolm
Malcolm wrote:Ben Carson, expert on human psychology and sexuality:
The Baltimore neurosurgeon made the outlandish claims to television host Chris Cuomo on a segment of CNN’s morning show “New Day” after the anchor asked if he thought people had control over their sexual orientation, during a discussion about same-sex marriage.

“Absolutely,” Carson began his bizarre argument. “Because a lot of people who go into prison — go into prison straight, and when they come out they’re gay. So did something happen while they were in there?”
Ben Carson: wait, I've got more.

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:58 pm
by TPRJones
“I do not pretend to know how every individual came to their sexual orientation. For myself I remember very clearly how alluring I found the showers after gym class in high school, until the day I decided to follow Gods will and remain a heterosexual. I know that orientation is a choice because it is a choice I myself have made."

See, if they came out and said something like that I'd feel less hatred of them and more pity.

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:03 pm
by GORDON
I'm trying to imagine what George Washington would have answered if someone asked him in 1785 (or whenever he was running for first President) his thoughts about homosexuality.

Not because I would have cared about his opinion, but because I like to think he would have just blinked at that person and asked him if he had anything more important to worry about, today.

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:11 pm
by Malcolm
For myself I remember very clearly how alluring I found the showers after gym class in high school, until the day I decided to <s>follow Gods will</s> completely suppress any exploration of my own sexuality for fear of being confused and ostracized and <s>remain</s> retreat back into the tiny corner of my psyche where the hard choices are already made for me, like the decision to be a heterosexual.

Fixed.

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:24 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote:Not because I would have cared about his opinion, but because I like to think he would have just blinked at that person and asked him if he had anything more important to worry about, today.
I was just thinking that today as I saw people get in a huff over the waist of the live action Cinderella character.

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:39 am
by Vince
GORDON wrote:I'm trying to imagine what George Washington would have answered if someone asked him in 1785 (or whenever he was running for first President) his thoughts about homosexuality.

Not because I would have cared about his opinion, but because I like to think he would have just blinked at that person and asked him if he had anything more important to worry about, today.
Absolutely. I felt that way with the evolution question with Scott Walker. About as relevant to the situations the next President will have to address as whether he thinks Jesus Christ was right or left handed.

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:47 am
by Malcolm
About as relevant to the situations the next President will have to address as whether he thinks Jesus Christ was right or left handed.

One is a theory of science, the other is something completely trivial. I am actually concerned about the ability of a prez's mind to understand things in such a way. Otherwise, you get some of the idiotic theories espoused by the talking mummies that refuse to leave the GOP. Like the ever quotable twat who went on record saying that a woman's reproductive system is somehow aware of when it's being raped and maybe it takes the eggs to a safehouse or something so they aren't fertilized.

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:09 pm
by Leisher
Jeb Bush supports Common Core.

This is one of the top trending topics on the internet right now, and not because people agree with him.

A guy named Bush didn't need another strike against him. He should just drop out now.

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:22 pm
by TheCatt
I really have no issue with CC, other than all the whining. God parents whine so fucking much.

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:36 pm
by Leisher
I have a problem with CC because all the educators I know have problems with CC.

Also, why reinvent the wheel? If we need a new system, do what Japan does because they're curb stomping us.

Plus, our old system allowed people to separate themselves from the pack. (Good and bad)

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:09 am
by GORDON
TheCatt wrote:I really have no issue with CC, other than all the whining. God parents whine so fucking much.
The reality of CC is, in spite of the school system telling us that normal academics would not be disrupted by the CC testing, it has completely been disrupted by the CC testing. The entire 3rd quarter of school has been completely devoted to daily CC practice testing, and then the testing itself. There have been very few things to get them their actual grade for this quarter. So few things that a recent homework assignment, a simple 7-word word search for reading class, had the same weight as a spelling test and counted for 7% of the entire grade. This became a problem since it wasn't marked in the assignment book as something to be turned in.

There's so much pressure being put on 9 year old kids that they come home crying, hating school, never wanting to go back. Good job, educators.

The school apparently gets money based on the overall results of this CC testing, and the teachers somehow get evaluated according to this CC testing. I don't know the specifics of it, but I have heard it often enough, here and there. Of course the children's actual education is going to get thrown aside for it, because there's money involved, here.

We've already decided to opt him out of it all, next year. School is going to be pissed since he would be one of the top scorers.

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:56 am
by Malcolm
If we need a new system, do what Japan does because they're curb stomping us.

Japan's cultish devotion to tradition go hand in hand with its education system. It's starting to show some cracks after a couple thousand years. We can't emulate that system without that culture. We aren't them geographically or politically, either.

Also, why reinvent the wheel?

You're suggesting the current educational standards are nothing but elegant, simple, sublime successes? This ain't a wheel; it's a bloated Rube Goldberg machine spinning into the void.

The school apparently gets money based on the overall results of this CC testing, and the teachers somehow get evaluated according to this CC testing.

Now that's doubly bad and lazy. Standardized, fill-in-the-cirlce tests are the speedbumps of academic life. They should all be removed.

There's so much pressure being put on 9 year old kids that they come home crying, hating school, never wanting to go back. Good job, educators.

They've done their job. They've proven they suck at teaching. Consider it motivation for your kid to start learning things on his own instead of waiting for someone else to explain it. Figuring out at an early age that school is bullshit is a very important lesson.




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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:06 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote:
TheCatt wrote:I really have no issue with CC, other than all the whining. God parents whine so fucking much.
The reality of CC is, in spite of the school system telling us that normal academics would not be disrupted by the CC testing, it has completely been disrupted by the CC testing. The entire 3rd quarter of school has been completely devoted to daily CC practice testing, and then the testing itself. There have been very few things to get them their actual grade for this quarter. So few things that a recent homework assignment, a simple 7-word word search for reading class, had the same weight as a spelling test and counted for 7% of the entire grade. This became a problem since it wasn't marked in the assignment book as something to be turned in.

There's so much pressure being put on 9 year old kids that they come home crying, hating school, never wanting to go back. Good job, educators.

The school apparently gets money based on the overall results of this CC testing, and the teachers somehow get evaluated according to this CC testing. I don't know the specifics of it, but I have heard it often enough, here and there. Of course the children's actual education is going to get thrown aside for it, because there's money involved, here.

We've already decided to opt him out of it all, next year. School is going to be pissed since he would be one of the top scorers.
Here's where you are completely wrong. The CC is not the test. The test is end of grade testing that is there regardless of the curriculum.

Rage against the test. Not the common core.

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:21 pm
by GORDON
The school told us the test is brand new and based on what they are taught according to the CC curriculum. This PARCC testing was only introduced when the CC curriculum was. The school shouldn't be lying to us.

http://www.parcconline.org/about-parcc

PARCC is based on the core belief that assessment should work as a tool for enhancing teaching and learning. Because the assessments are aligned with the new, more rigorous Common Core State Standards (CCSS), they ensure that every child is on a path to college and career readiness by measuring what students should know at each grade level.