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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:04 pm
by thibodeaux
You didn't watch the video, did you?
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:06 pm
by GORDON
Dude, I totally watched the whole thing in the 6 minutes between when you posted it and when I said stuff.
An hour is a bit of a commitment. I'd love the executive summary.
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:10 pm
by thibodeaux
Executive summary: Calories in - calories out is BS.
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:21 pm
by GORDON
All righty.
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:26 pm
by TheCatt
Well, my body's been equivalating food with staying awake, mostly carbs and crap with the baby (and baby's reflux, and having a 3week cold).... so I've been eating like shit.
But I just made a $100 bet with a co-worker to lose 15% by June 1st, so now there's money on the line.
Today: 213.5 lbs goal: 181.5
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:28 pm
by GORDON
Way easy money.
And I weigh less than you at the moment. 
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:31 pm
by thibodeaux
Let me clarify a bit. There's two hypotheses about why your body gains fat:
1. Your body gains fat because you eat too much or don't exercise enough (or both).
2. Your body gains fat because something's wrong with your metabolism, and THAT'S why you eat "too much" or don't exercise. Your body is literally starving because it's shoving energy into fat and not letting you use it.
The science is clear: Carbs drive insulin drives fat. Period. Fat is deposited in the presence of insulin, and it's mobilized in the absence of insulin. Eating carbs spikes your insulin.
Will you lose weight if you starve yourself? Sure. But you'll not necessarily maintain a healthy body composition. In other words, you will lose muscle and organ tissue. That sure sounds healthy. But hey, at least you won't do something crazy like eliminate a whole "food group."
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:32 pm
by GORDON
Yeah, "eat less/exercise" is just insanity.
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:35 pm
by Troy
I love that there is a related video called "fire fart"
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:43 pm
by thibodeaux
GORDON wrote:Yeah, "eat less/exercise" is just insanity.
It literally is, because it's tried over and over, but doesn't succeed. In the video, Taubes quotes obesity researchers who point this out: eat less and exercise more has does not work.
The reason is that it does not address the real problem. The real problem for people whose bodies have too much fat is a metabolic problem.
Look, evolutionarily it doesn't make sense that you'd have to count calories to maintain a healthy body composition, since we've only understood calories for maybe a couple hundred years. If your body is healthy, it AUTOMATICALLY regulates your weight and composition, just like it AUTOMATICALLY regulates your body temperature. Duh!
So, you know, if you've got a fever, it's because you're too hot, so you should take a cold shower, right? No! Your immune system is creating the fever to fight the infection; the fever is a SYMPTOM of your body being unhealthy. Likewise, too much fat is a SYMPTOM of your body being unhealthy. Treat the disease, not the symptom.
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:36 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote:Way easy money.
And I weigh less than you at the moment.
Well, it's a competition to lose 15%, so we're both trying to lose the same amount.
Winner gets $100 * difference in weight loss between us.
So if I lose 7.5%, he loses the full 15%, he gets $50, etc.
Today's lunch was 3 soft tacos with black beans and refried beans. No cheese, just veggies on the meat.
Threw away the tortillas, and ate the rest.
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:27 pm
by GORDON
I had an egg roll and about a cup of white rice (1 cup after cooking). It is becoming my go-to lunch. Much more appetizing than a pre-packaged diet meal.
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:23 am
by GORDON
As of right now, I am 14.6 pounds down from my starting weight. I think it's been about a month. Half way to the goal.
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:46 am
by GORDON
I've lost 5 pounds since Monday.
I better slow it down and have a whopper combo for lunch.
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:25 pm
by Leisher
Read a sample of the 4 Hour Body book that Thib talked about, and just got done ordering it.
Gonna combine it with H.I.I.T., which seems to be like the book's author did. I'll mix in some P90X ab and weight training too. No cardio though, H.I.I.T. will take care of that.
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:56 am
by thibodeaux
I just ate 5 slices of bacon, 5 scrambled eggs, and half a ribeye. Plus probably 8 oz of non-skim milk mixed with heavy cream.
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:15 pm
by unkbill
You guys ever heard this one about how much water you should drink in a day. Take your body weight divide it in half. That is the number of ounces of water a day to stay hydrated. For me that is 148 oz. Over 2 gallons. Seems like an awful lot. And I'm sure I don't.
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:00 pm
by thibodeaux
That sounds bogus.
On another note, if you only read one more book ever in your whole entire life, read this one.
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:12 pm
by Malcolm
unkbill wrote:You guys ever heard this one about how much water you should drink in a day. Take your body weight divide it in half. That is the number of ounces of water a day to stay hydrated. For me that is 148 oz. Over 2 gallons. Seems like an awful lot. And I'm sure I don't.
Uh, no. That seems like a LOT. You take in quite a bit of water through things you normally ingest (the primary ingredient in pretty much ever liquid you drink is still or carbonated water). I've heard somewhere around 32 fl. oz. per day if you want a hard, fast digit. Drinking excessive amounts (not sure where 2 gallons fits in on that scale) of water can actually cause deficiencies in certain substances in your body due to, well, more water diluting your fluids.
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:27 pm
by GORDON
unkbill wrote:You guys ever heard this one about how much water you should drink in a day. Take your body weight divide it in half. That is the number of ounces of water a day to stay hydrated. For me that is 148 oz. Over 2 gallons. Seems like an awful lot. And I'm sure I don't.
I've been on hikes in the Marines where we sweat so much the salt crystals were visible on our camis, but I still don't think we drank 2 gallons of water that day. 1, easily, but not 2.