I'm curious what price costco would give me on this truck. Executive members can do the car thing.... bought my Leaf through it. The Leaf was a flat invoice+small percentage, no haggling.
But I don't want to do it because then I have to talk to a human and no one enjoys that.
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"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
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A co-worker friend just bought his wife a Calligraphy.
Meanwhile, the insurance company will claim it lowers your rates. It doesn't...TheCatt wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:53 pmIt is, and especially raises the cost of fixing any accidents.GORDON wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:44 pm I hate you can't choose to NOT have all the bullshit radar stuff that I don't want. I don't have a problem seeing my blind spots, and don't need the alert lights. I don't need the truck to slow down when there's a slower vehicle a quarter mile ahead. So that bullshit is probably a big chunk of that increased price.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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It's a nice car. A little annoying about how some things they'll only put on the Kia version, and some are exclusive to Hyundai. (like folding mirrors when car is locked is Kia only. The place to put your purse up front is Hyundai only).
It's not me, it's someone else.
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I specifically checked the boxes for "just checking prices, don't contact me." Have received one phone call and two emails since last night from the local dealer.
They must be desperate. Or are hoping for an old who both has web skills and is also likely to buy a car without wanting to.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
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Four emails since. These may be auto generated.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
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Story time.
Not sure how much of this I've shared previously, so there might be some repeating in here.
Bought a 2018 Ford Focus 6 years ago. Why? Because I needed a car to get from A to B that I can hand down to the twins when they turn 16, which is around the corner. Plus, I got it for nothing. It was part of a shipment going to a convent (I'm not making this up) that the nuns cancelled plus I have family in the industry and being a vet, well, at less than $15K I couldn't say no. I mean, it was brand new. It had 7 miles on it.
Cut to a few years later and we're driving back and forth to Cleveland every weekend. My oldest is in a play out there, but this is before she could drive. One weekend, while my wife was driving the car to Cleveland, it broke down. The engine was completely seized. In a move that indicated something was definitely wrong, Ford shipped a brand new engine to replace it and we paid $0 for the incident.
About 1 year ago, I was driving it and out of nowhere it just lost all acceleration. I couldn't get past 55 MPH and it took all day to get up to speed. Turns out, the turbo had gone bad. $400 or so part and repair.
On a Thursday two weeks ago, I left the new office and was traveling side streets on the way home. I was in a roundabout and heard something in my car. All acceleration gone. It seemed like the transmission was fucked up to as trying to get going would result in almost redlining the engine. I pulled into an oil change place hoping it was the transmission fluid. They oddly told me that my oil was overfilled. That didn't make sense. The place I usually go was always spot on and it's been 5K miles.
Anyway, that visit didn't fix shit, so I swung by my folks as they were on the way home. I visited for a bit hoping whatever was going on would temporarily resolve itself. (That worked previously with the turbo issue, but it was a temp fix.) Nope. Heading home and about 5 minutes away it died at a red light. Conveniently, there was an empty field right there where a house used to be, so I threw it into neutral and quickly shoved it in. It was honestly very fortuitous. The driveway was 15 ft away from where I broke down.
It was towed to a mechanic in the area we use. They checked the turbo. It was fine. However, they found metal pieces in the oil. Uh oh. The engine was completely seized again. The exact same issue from where it broke down in Cleveland. It was then towed to the dealership because there is an active recall and this seems like it's under it. Plus, the warranty on this engine expired in a month.
The dealership said they'd need to charge me $700 to tear the engine apart to confirm the issue is part of the recall. They did and it is, thus that charge is wiped off my bill. There will be no charges.
Here's where it gets fun. The car is a paperweight. There's a temp fix that can get it running, but all the parts are on backorder and the dealership has no ETA on when they'll get new ones.
And did you catch that important part? It's a temp fix.
Turns out, Ford has no permanent fix yet. So even when and if they get my car working again, the recall will still be active on it. It probably will break down again if it doesn't develop that permanent fix sooner rather than later.
6 years old and it needs a THIRD engine.
I'm looking into lemon laws because this would seem to apply since they cannot fix the issue. Catt, you're the finance man, explain why this wouldn't make sense for Ford:
Ford scraps the car and the entire line. Anyone with it can get the original purchase price of the car towards a new Ford vehicle. (Or used to make it economically viable for everyone, but they can't get a car for less value and expect money back. This is an equal or more swap.) Now Ford can sell a bunch of cars, stop trying to develop a fix for a bad design, stop shipping out entire engines and temp fix parts, get whatever value is left of the vehicles, overall stop losing money on this model, and turn lemons into lemonade for a bunch of customers who are probably thinking, "I'm not buying a Ford ever again."
I should write them and say, "Give me this deal and I'll even sign an NDA for an extra $5K towards my new car."
Not sure how much of this I've shared previously, so there might be some repeating in here.
Bought a 2018 Ford Focus 6 years ago. Why? Because I needed a car to get from A to B that I can hand down to the twins when they turn 16, which is around the corner. Plus, I got it for nothing. It was part of a shipment going to a convent (I'm not making this up) that the nuns cancelled plus I have family in the industry and being a vet, well, at less than $15K I couldn't say no. I mean, it was brand new. It had 7 miles on it.
Cut to a few years later and we're driving back and forth to Cleveland every weekend. My oldest is in a play out there, but this is before she could drive. One weekend, while my wife was driving the car to Cleveland, it broke down. The engine was completely seized. In a move that indicated something was definitely wrong, Ford shipped a brand new engine to replace it and we paid $0 for the incident.
About 1 year ago, I was driving it and out of nowhere it just lost all acceleration. I couldn't get past 55 MPH and it took all day to get up to speed. Turns out, the turbo had gone bad. $400 or so part and repair.
On a Thursday two weeks ago, I left the new office and was traveling side streets on the way home. I was in a roundabout and heard something in my car. All acceleration gone. It seemed like the transmission was fucked up to as trying to get going would result in almost redlining the engine. I pulled into an oil change place hoping it was the transmission fluid. They oddly told me that my oil was overfilled. That didn't make sense. The place I usually go was always spot on and it's been 5K miles.
Anyway, that visit didn't fix shit, so I swung by my folks as they were on the way home. I visited for a bit hoping whatever was going on would temporarily resolve itself. (That worked previously with the turbo issue, but it was a temp fix.) Nope. Heading home and about 5 minutes away it died at a red light. Conveniently, there was an empty field right there where a house used to be, so I threw it into neutral and quickly shoved it in. It was honestly very fortuitous. The driveway was 15 ft away from where I broke down.
It was towed to a mechanic in the area we use. They checked the turbo. It was fine. However, they found metal pieces in the oil. Uh oh. The engine was completely seized again. The exact same issue from where it broke down in Cleveland. It was then towed to the dealership because there is an active recall and this seems like it's under it. Plus, the warranty on this engine expired in a month.
The dealership said they'd need to charge me $700 to tear the engine apart to confirm the issue is part of the recall. They did and it is, thus that charge is wiped off my bill. There will be no charges.
Here's where it gets fun. The car is a paperweight. There's a temp fix that can get it running, but all the parts are on backorder and the dealership has no ETA on when they'll get new ones.
And did you catch that important part? It's a temp fix.
Turns out, Ford has no permanent fix yet. So even when and if they get my car working again, the recall will still be active on it. It probably will break down again if it doesn't develop that permanent fix sooner rather than later.
6 years old and it needs a THIRD engine.
I'm looking into lemon laws because this would seem to apply since they cannot fix the issue. Catt, you're the finance man, explain why this wouldn't make sense for Ford:
Ford scraps the car and the entire line. Anyone with it can get the original purchase price of the car towards a new Ford vehicle. (Or used to make it economically viable for everyone, but they can't get a car for less value and expect money back. This is an equal or more swap.) Now Ford can sell a bunch of cars, stop trying to develop a fix for a bad design, stop shipping out entire engines and temp fix parts, get whatever value is left of the vehicles, overall stop losing money on this model, and turn lemons into lemonade for a bunch of customers who are probably thinking, "I'm not buying a Ford ever again."
I should write them and say, "Give me this deal and I'll even sign an NDA for an extra $5K towards my new car."
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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JFC. In theory, a fixed engine should be cheaper than all that, but amazing that they still haven't been able to fix it this far along?
It's not me, it's someone else.
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Right?
I said to the mechanic, "The combustion engine has been around for 100 years. What could they possibly be having trouble fixing?" He laughed and said, "I genuinely have no idea why they can't fix it. This whole situation is a new one for us."
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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The meant to make it fail at 5 years but haven't quite dialed in that particular flaw.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
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2018 sas the last year for the focus. The engine probably isn't used in any other vehicles. It's a dead product and they probably don't have the assembly line that made them any more to modify and build it correctly. Those are my theories.
And stop telling this story. I have a 2018 with about 49k miles on it I'm about to try to sell.
And for the record, we've had zero issues with it. Bought it as a lease turn in with about 18k miles on it in '21. Bought it as a test, letting techs drive it so they didn't always have to drive their own. Test failed. Techs do NOT respect other people's property and the thing is fucking trashed. I made sure it was maintained, but the inside is destroyed and the outside is beat to shit. I'll be able to get it detailed back to sellable condition. But fuck providing vehicles to techs. That ain't happening again.
And lemon laws are great. I told you my story. In the end, paid about 3k for a Jeep Cherokee sport that we drove for 3-4 years. Also the last year for the vehicle. Also had an engine problem that there was no known fix for. Ironically, the engine worked fine. But there was a recall that required a new part. That new part caused the issue. They couldn't remove it because it was preventing engine compartment fires (if leaves and other debris built up).
The way it worked for us, any money you spent on the car (car payments in our case) after the problem starts is refunded. Since we didn't have any issues the first 3-4 miles, we didn't get that money back. But because it happened the first time really early, then didn't start happening again until a few years later, we got pretty much all of our money back. And a cool T-Shirt advertising our lawyer. Very straight forward process since it was a known issue that had no fix. They couldn't (and didn't) really fight it. Lawyers bill their rates on top of your refund. So you don't even pay lawyer fees out of your refund. They bill those separate.
And stop telling this story. I have a 2018 with about 49k miles on it I'm about to try to sell.
And for the record, we've had zero issues with it. Bought it as a lease turn in with about 18k miles on it in '21. Bought it as a test, letting techs drive it so they didn't always have to drive their own. Test failed. Techs do NOT respect other people's property and the thing is fucking trashed. I made sure it was maintained, but the inside is destroyed and the outside is beat to shit. I'll be able to get it detailed back to sellable condition. But fuck providing vehicles to techs. That ain't happening again.
And lemon laws are great. I told you my story. In the end, paid about 3k for a Jeep Cherokee sport that we drove for 3-4 years. Also the last year for the vehicle. Also had an engine problem that there was no known fix for. Ironically, the engine worked fine. But there was a recall that required a new part. That new part caused the issue. They couldn't remove it because it was preventing engine compartment fires (if leaves and other debris built up).
The way it worked for us, any money you spent on the car (car payments in our case) after the problem starts is refunded. Since we didn't have any issues the first 3-4 miles, we didn't get that money back. But because it happened the first time really early, then didn't start happening again until a few years later, we got pretty much all of our money back. And a cool T-Shirt advertising our lawyer. Very straight forward process since it was a known issue that had no fix. They couldn't (and didn't) really fight it. Lawyers bill their rates on top of your refund. So you don't even pay lawyer fees out of your refund. They bill those separate.
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If all true, they should want my deal even more.
Yeah, I'm starting to look down that road.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Lemon law process has begun. Reached out to lemonlawconnect.com today to find a lawyer. They're supposed to call me later this afternoon.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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They rejected me. That firm focuses on cars 2020 and newer only.
So I called a lawyer friend, they recommended someone else. Left a VM, so now we wait.
So I called a lawyer friend, they recommended someone else. Left a VM, so now we wait.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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As I wait for a lawyer, let's check in on Jaguar who released ad one of a new campaign...
Here it is with my favorite response. They are getting shredded and crazy ratioed. Let's see if they quickly change course or if this is planned because the next step is actually anti-woke.
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In other news, the unsustainable Wall St. effect hits Jeep.
Here it is with my favorite response. They are getting shredded and crazy ratioed. Let's see if they quickly change course or if this is planned because the next step is actually anti-woke.
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In other news, the unsustainable Wall St. effect hits Jeep.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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When I think Jaguar, I think people who are actually really old, and wish they could pull that women in the 2nd picture. Not whatever that first thing was.
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I used to, but then one of my best friends, a black guy about 15 years younger than me bought one. Also, let's be for real, rich guys, no matter their age, can pull women like that.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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But my friend, you are stupid if you don't see the path to a woman like that with your money and your wife's awesome attitude.
And when that happens... postpixplzthx Just make sure you're not in them!!
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell