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Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 5:11 pm
by Malcolm
I guess as long as you don't pay much for it, then college isn't a waste of money. Waste of time, though. Student debt is also a bitch and a half. What fucking country decides the best way to send grads out into the work force is a significant probability of debt in the high five figure range coupled with a shitty education? That's like giving someone herpes then not even offering to drive them to a clinic.



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Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 5:57 am
by Vince
Let's guarantee people a loan, the only one of which they can't discharge with bankruptcy. Sounds compassionate.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 8:05 am
by GORDON
Even better, let's subsidize college and do nothing to make sure colleges don't increase their fees to account for their customers having a huge pool of government money from which to draw.



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Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 9:40 am
by TPRJones
Even better, let's subsidize college and do nothing to make sure colleges don't increase their fees to account for their customers having a huge pool of government money from which to draw.

I don't know how it works in other states, but here in Texas a fee increase at any publicly funded institution of higher education has to be voted on by the state legislature.

Needless to say we don't get many fee increases.

Besides, less than 1/4 of our revenue comes from tuition and fees. Most is from state payments (which makes up the difference between In State and Out of State tuition) or from district property taxes (the difference between In District and Out of District tuition).




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Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 9:48 am
by GORDON
Well god bless Texas.

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All the underscores were confusing the forum or something.

http://tinyurl.com/k7h7feu




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Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 9:55 am
by TPRJones
Oh, don't get me wrong, even down here the price has grown like mad. It's just much of the increases have been picked up by state and local taxes, at least wherever the legislature couldn't agree on allowing tuition hikes.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 4:27 pm
by Vince
It will create a bubble, just like guaranteed loans for houses created the housing bubble.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 4:55 pm
by GORDON
On this chart, the 2 things that are heavily subsidized have the largest increase in cost.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 5:26 pm
by Malcolm
Vince wrote:It will create a bubble, just like guaranteed loans for houses created the housing bubble.
One of many reasons I am never going to school, ever fucking again. My goal is to forget all the worthlessness I learned to make room for more useful info.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 6:07 pm
by TheCatt
Malcolm wrote:One of many reasons I am never going to school, ever fucking again. My goal is to forget all the worthlessness I learned to make room for more useful info.
I would hope it's just cuz your an adult, now.

I loved college., I would do some things differently if I had to live it over again, but 18 year old me would sure as hell be going to college again.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 6:16 pm
by Malcolm
TheCatt wrote:I would hope it's just cuz your an adult, now.
I don't consider myself one of those either, except for legal purposes.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 6:29 pm
by TPRJones
If I had it to do again, 18 year old me would get a job and skip college and the debt and those worthless classes. But I'd still spend four years near college, working just hard enough to get by and hanging out with the gaming and sci-fi clubs and just having a nice four years. That would have maximized my value per cost for that time.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 6:36 pm
by Malcolm
If I had it to do again, 18 year old me would get a job and skip college and the debt and those worthless classes.

Amen. Hell, at the uni I went to, you could just wander into classrooms if you knew where lectures were being held. No one's ID'ing you at the door.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 7:30 pm
by GORDON
http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/205871/
What we’ve learned so far: Women are too emotionally immature for college. They should be kept at home until a suitable man appears, ready to marry them and assume responsibility for overseeing their poor decision-making abilities.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 7:31 pm
by GORDON
http://thepunditpress.com/2015....justice
Texas Tech Dean of Students: Due Process has a “Chilling Effect” on Justice at College

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 8:03 pm
by TPRJones
Tech? Surprising. That's the sort of crap I'd have expected of U.T., but not Tech.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 10:15 pm
by Malcolm
Jenn Davis, a freshman, said that if someone is accused of rape, they shouldn’t have the right to question their accuser: “I can’t imagine being a sexual assault victim, but if that were ever to unfortunately happen to me, I would not want people to ask me questions about it after I had already told my story. I’ve done some research on the topic and it can be traumatic to continue to relive the situation over and over again.”

The real bitch is that if a dude tapes himself to prove he was voluntarily fucked by a chick, that's illegal, too.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 6:20 am
by Vince
GORDON wrote:http://thepunditpress.com/2015....justice
Texas Tech Dean of Students: Due Process has a “Chilling Effect” on Justice at College
This is getting bad.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 1:34 pm
by Malcolm
College getting more rapey.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 3:41 pm
by GORDON
Malcolm wrote:College getting more rapey.
More than 18 percent of female freshman at one upstate New York university say they were either raped or the victims of an attempted rape within a year of starting at the school, according to a new survey tracking the risk of sexual assault on first-year college women.


And of those 18% of women, I am willing to admit that every single one who immediately went to the police may be telling the truth. So how many did that?