The second Obama term

Post by **TPRJones** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:35 pm

Financially speaking, currently it still makes more sense for most of those healthy people to just pay the penalties. Much cheaper.

As long as they stay healthy, of course.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:39 pm

This year the penalty is only $95, but I know it increases after that.

If Obamacare remains a Thing, I can see some really harsh IRS enforcement coming because it is going to be bankrupt out of the gate. Good thing they bought so much ammo. Shit's gonna hurt.

Post by **thibodeaux** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:16 pm

I can't decide if

1) the shittiness of Obamacare is intentional, so as to make everybody throw up their hands and say, "fuckit let's just do what Canada does."
or
2) it's just the usual government incompetence

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:22 pm

thibodeaux wrote:I can't decide if

1) the shittiness of Obamacare is intentional, so as to make everybody throw up their hands and say, "fuckit let's just do what Canada does."
or
2) it's just the usual government incompetence

Probably the latter.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:45 pm

Speaking of jobs. I just liberated myself from my most recent one.

I've spent the last 3 months taking phone calls from insurance agents/brokers who were attempting to navigate the miserable gauntlet that is registering on the Obamacare websites to be eligible to sell insurance on the Federally Facilitated Marketplaces. The poor tortured souls would spend hours on hold to get to one of us, who then informed them they had to "be patient" and "keep trying". Some of them were beyond frantic. If they couldn't complete the process, they were basically out of business.

I felt like a Catholic priest working at Planned Parenthood.

Or a PETA member working in a slaughterhouse.

Last Friday, I'd had enough. Walked out. Fin. Worst job I've ever had. And that list includes spending 8 hours a day in a hot factory with a hand-held pneumatic air-chisel (basically a small hand-held jackhammer) removing slag from welds on steel tractor frames.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:57 pm

http://www.hhs.gov/digital....er.html

TECH SURGE

To ensure that we make swift progress, and that the consumer experience continues to improve, our team has called in additional help to solve some of the more complex technical issues we are encountering.

Our team is bringing in some of the best and brightest from both inside and outside government to scrub in with the team and help improve HealthCare.gov.

Everyone knows the best way to fix a mangled, broken, mismanaged, behind schedule software project is to bring in more people who will have to be brought up to speed first.

Post by **TheCatt** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:22 pm

For the right money, they can buy me

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:16 pm

TheCatt wrote:For the right money, they can buy me

Was out at the pub tonight. Said to my buddy, "I can solve all your health care website problems for the rock bottom price of $500 an hour."

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:18 pm

Malcolm wrote:
TheCatt wrote:For the right money, they can buy me
Was out at the pub tonight. Said to my buddy, "I can solve all your health care website problems for the rock bottom price of $500 an hour."

I'd bet a dollar that salary is not uncommon in the group that "coded" it.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:26 pm

GORDON wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
TheCatt wrote:For the right money, they can buy me
Was out at the pub tonight. Said to my buddy, "I can solve all your health care website problems for the rock bottom price of $500 an hour."
I'd bet a dollar that salary is not uncommon in the group that "coded" it.

That is OBSCENE. For $500/hr, I could code that shit up flawlessly. For $500/hr, I can hire the best designers and architects money can buy. Easily, no contest.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:18 pm

More taxes, motherfuckers.

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:10 pm

Malcolm wrote:
GORDON wrote:
Malcolm wrote: Was out at the pub tonight. Said to my buddy, "I can solve all your health care website problems for the rock bottom price of $500 an hour."
I'd bet a dollar that salary is not uncommon in the group that "coded" it.
That is OBSCENE. For $500/hr, I could code that shit up flawlessly. For $500/hr, I can hire the best designers and architects money can buy. Easily, no contest.

On my phone so not gonnA LOOk it up, but I heard this website has already cost about three hundred million dollars.

For a broken website. If true, someone is making.500 an hour.

Someone.look it up.

Post by **TheCatt** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:46 pm

It cost the federal government more than $300 million for outside contractors to set up the Obamacare website that has had so much trouble in its first three weeks of operation.
Most of that money has gone to six contractors that together have received more than $200 million in taxpayer funds, with the biggest single contractor receiving $88 million.
Overall, the government has spent $394 million setting up the website and the exchanges through which the public can buy health insurance, according to a report earlier this year from the General Accountability Office, a government watchdog. While not all the money went into the troubled websites, most of it did.

Post by **TPRJones** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:25 pm

Most of that money has gone to six contractors...

So was that one after the other because they kept making a mess of it and someone else had to come in to clean it up, and then mess it up themselves? Or was that all at once and this is a failure of too many cooks in the kitchen?

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:25 pm

Almost

Half

a billion

dollars.

For a website.

Lots of peeps are making $500 an hour.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:41 pm

GORDON wrote:Almost

Half

a billion

dollars.

For a website.

Lots of peeps are making $500 an hour.

I'm so pissed I didn't think of this when the law was signed into effect. Fuck, I'd give them a solid skeleton for $1M up front and finish the rest for $9M.

It doesn't even matter what they want. $10M can hire overkill resources to do this, I don't give a fuck how much traffic, volume, bandwidth, or people are in play.

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:49 pm

Sheeeeit. I could deliver a broken website for half that price.

Post by **Leisher** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:42 pm

From what I understand, the contract was awarded, without bidding, to the company that did the same shit for Canada's system. Did I mention Canada fired them for fucking it up so badly?

Yep. Obamacare is going to be awesome.

Post by **TPRJones** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:10 am

I'm sure the Republicans are the one that picked that company for the job, to ensure that Obamacare would fail.

Darn Republicans, always ruining stuff.

Post by **Leisher** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:20 am

Everything is still Bush's fault

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