The second Obama term

For stuff that is general.
thibodeaux
Posts: 8121
Joined: Thu May 20, 2004 7:32 pm

Post by thibodeaux »

I assume you're being facetious. Because anybody who pays attention knows that it's not important what a politician says. What's important is which side he's on.

Father Guido could teach that to you in Five Minutes.
Malcolm
Posts: 32040
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 1:04 pm
Location: Minneapolis

Post by Malcolm »

Talking head speaks some more.
President Barack Obama has said the credibility of the US, its Congress and the international community is on the line over their response to Syria's alleged use of chemical weapons.

What credibility? This is the same international community that thought Gangnam Style needed a billion YouTube views.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
TPRJones
Posts: 13418
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 2:05 pm
Location: Houston
Contact:

Post by TPRJones »

How is it Obama got elected, in part, on a platform of not "attacking countries that never attacked us," but now it is totally cool to do so and we all need to support our President?

Jon Stewart hit that point a bit last night, too. Tied what Obama is doing now very nicely to both Bush Jr and Bush Sr and their wars in the Middle East.

But he didn't put an answer to your question. Just asked it.




Edited By TPRJones on 1378319219
"ATTENTION: Customers browsing porn must hold magazines with both hands at all times!"
TheCatt
Site Admin
Posts: 57772
Joined: Thu May 20, 2004 11:15 pm
Location: Cary, NC

Post by TheCatt »

On my FB, the few people (left or right) talking about Syria are pretty much all talking about a) not doing it and b) the President has no plan.
It's not me, it's someone else.
TPRJones
Posts: 13418
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 2:05 pm
Location: Houston
Contact:

Post by TPRJones »

I am in favor of stopping mass murder when we can, but I don't think we really can in this case. Not effectively, at least. The UN might be able to put something together, but that is unlikely as they are almost never effective just on general principle.
"ATTENTION: Customers browsing porn must hold magazines with both hands at all times!"
Malcolm
Posts: 32040
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 1:04 pm
Location: Minneapolis

Post by Malcolm »

TPRJones wrote:I am in favor of stopping mass murder when we can, but I don't think we really can in this case. Not effectively, at least. The UN might be able to put something together, but that is unlikely as they are almost never effective just on general principle.
The US is awesome at toppling brutal dictators. We suck chlamydia-ridden donkey balls at stabilizing countries after doing that.

We sucked in Iraq, Afghanistan, and we'll suck in Syria, too, if we try. Anyone over there who's neither relatively insane or corrupt we want to give power to?
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Leisher
Site Admin
Posts: 70584
Joined: Thu May 20, 2004 9:17 pm
Contact:

Post by Leisher »

Iran will defend Syria "to the end".

This is essentially the world showing they have no respect for Obama.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Malcolm
Posts: 32040
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 1:04 pm
Location: Minneapolis

Post by Malcolm »

President Hassan Rowhani said Iran will do "everything to prevent" an attack on the Syrian regime, according to extracts from statements he made before the Assembly of Experts published in the media.

Looks like the new boss is just as insane as the old boss.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Malcolm
Posts: 32040
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 1:04 pm
Location: Minneapolis

Post by Malcolm »

Putin: John Kerry is lying.
Speaking to his human rights council Wednesday, Putin said, "This was very unpleasant and surprising for me. We talk to them (the Americans), and we assume they are decent people, but he is lying and he knows that he is lying. This is sad."




Edited By Malcolm on 1378401062
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Leisher
Site Admin
Posts: 70584
Joined: Thu May 20, 2004 9:17 pm
Contact:

Post by Leisher »

I just saw on the Twitters that Russia has compiled its own 100 page report detailing evidence that the Syrian rebels were behind the gas attack.

Quite honestly, Russia's position seems strong. Why would the government use gas on civilians in a war it's winning? Who would benefit from such an attack? The government or the rebels?

I think instead of randomly bombing, they should really investigate the issue and be 100% sure that the Syrian government was actually behind the attack.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Malcolm
Posts: 32040
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 1:04 pm
Location: Minneapolis

Post by Malcolm »

Why would the government use gas on civilians in a war it's winning?

To end it sooner.

Russia's position seems strong...

How do they prove which group launched the chems?
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Leisher
Site Admin
Posts: 70584
Joined: Thu May 20, 2004 9:17 pm
Contact:

Post by Leisher »

To end it sooner.


Why not use it on actual rebels then?

How do they prove which group launched the chems?


I don't know, wait to see their version.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Malcolm
Posts: 32040
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 1:04 pm
Location: Minneapolis

Post by Malcolm »

Leisher wrote:
To end it sooner.
Why not use it on actual rebels then?
Civies are easier targets. Maybe they were providing assistance. Maybe they just want to break any local public support for the rebels. Maybe they just wanted to call the bluff of the international community. They figure Egypt's getting away with shit, why not them?
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Leisher
Site Admin
Posts: 70584
Joined: Thu May 20, 2004 9:17 pm
Contact:

Post by Leisher »

Civies are easier targets. Maybe they were providing assistance. Maybe they just want to break any local public support for the rebels. Maybe they just wanted to call the bluff of the international community. They figure Egypt's getting away with shit, why not them?


Again, in a war they're winning, and knowing it could easily bring other countries into the fray and seriously damage their chances of winning? It makes no sense.

Things were far more dire early on, and they didn't use them then.

US State Department says Australia, Albania, Canada, Denmark, France, Kosovo, Poland, Romania and Turkey are on board with attack on Syria


That's from a news feed on Twitter.

Sounds like we're going it alone, huh? (wink wink nudge nudge)
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Malcolm
Posts: 32040
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 1:04 pm
Location: Minneapolis

Post by Malcolm »

Biden: Former head of American SS should be Supreme Court Justice.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
thibodeaux
Posts: 8121
Joined: Thu May 20, 2004 7:32 pm

Post by thibodeaux »

Malcolm wrote:Biden: Former head of American SS should be Supreme Court Justice.
Well, you gotta figure she's had the opportunity to dig up a lot of dirt on people, so he'll say whatever she wants him to.
Malcolm
Posts: 32040
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 1:04 pm
Location: Minneapolis

Post by Malcolm »

Maybe we'll bomb Syria, maybe not.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Leisher
Site Admin
Posts: 70584
Joined: Thu May 20, 2004 9:17 pm
Contact:

Post by Leisher »

Image

Image

Image
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Malcolm
Posts: 32040
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 1:04 pm
Location: Minneapolis

Post by Malcolm »

Wow.
"I cannot remember a time when one faction of one party promises economic chaos if it can't get 100 percent of what it wants," Obama said Monday. "That's never happened before."

Really?

Obama reiterated his refusal to negotiate with Republicans over the debt ceiling. And he called on Congress to "pass a budget without drama."

Yep, never happened before or since.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
GORDON
Site Admin
Posts: 56735
Joined: Sun Jun 06, 2004 10:43 pm
Location: DTManistan
Contact:

Post by GORDON »

Waren Buffet says Obamacare wont work.

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBl....ng-Else

Amazing how a lot of much poorer people than him knew that years and years ago.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Post Reply