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US Army Bases? Trump says no, Army says "we're open to it"
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You made me laugh twice today.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Because that was the topic at hand. It was an article about white privilege. You said he didn't have any and called it white guilt. Then you started introducing a bunch of other topics. I never said he didn't work hard (although HE did when he said "Did I work hard? Yes, but not unusually hard."). You keep denying the existence of white privilege. I never said that all things that white people have is from privilege, period. You act like I did, but I didn't. I am simply arguing that white privilege exists.
I even said "And we aren't giving him a single reason for his success. Skin color. We are saying it gave him an advantage."
I also said "He's simply pointing out his white privilege."
At no point have I discounted his work, his mom's pussy, etc. Simply saying, white privilege exists. So, yes or no, does white privilege exist?
Keep in mind we have also said "The best post so far was "There are multiple items to fix"."
At no point has it been argued that all success (or failure) is based on skin color alone. That is ridiculous.
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For Cake:
Everything in your last post is complete bullshit from start to finish. You're clearly not reading my posts. It's so devoid of truth that I believe you have to just be trolling me. The fact that you keep accusing me of denying white privilege, alone, is proof of trolling or not reading.
So instead of ripping apart that bullshit above with another wall of text you won't read, let me try to simply give you an analogy.
Let's say that I wrote an article crediting Vitamin D for my existence here on Earth and never mentioned food, water, oxygen, the Earth, my parents screwing, my education, the communities I've lived in, jobs I've had that feed and housed me, natural selection, the meteor that wiped out the dinos, the Earth's distance from the sun, Euros conquering the U.S., every single factor that played even the smallest role in my being here right now, and every other fucking variable that actually keeps me alive.
If I wrote that article, wouldn't it be logical to assume that maybe, just maybe I have a bias, guilt, or agenda in promoting Vitamin D and ignoring every other factor? And if someone did say, "Hey, you can't give all credit to Vitamin D! There's all these other factors involved that you're not giving any credit to and that's disingenuous." would they be denying the existence of Vitamin D? You seem to think so.
So I'm not sure who the fuck you're arguing with about the existence of white privilege, but it isn't me.
Everything in your last post is complete bullshit from start to finish. You're clearly not reading my posts. It's so devoid of truth that I believe you have to just be trolling me. The fact that you keep accusing me of denying white privilege, alone, is proof of trolling or not reading.
So instead of ripping apart that bullshit above with another wall of text you won't read, let me try to simply give you an analogy.
Let's say that I wrote an article crediting Vitamin D for my existence here on Earth and never mentioned food, water, oxygen, the Earth, my parents screwing, my education, the communities I've lived in, jobs I've had that feed and housed me, natural selection, the meteor that wiped out the dinos, the Earth's distance from the sun, Euros conquering the U.S., every single factor that played even the smallest role in my being here right now, and every other fucking variable that actually keeps me alive.
If I wrote that article, wouldn't it be logical to assume that maybe, just maybe I have a bias, guilt, or agenda in promoting Vitamin D and ignoring every other factor? And if someone did say, "Hey, you can't give all credit to Vitamin D! There's all these other factors involved that you're not giving any credit to and that's disingenuous." would they be denying the existence of Vitamin D? You seem to think so.
So I'm not sure who the fuck you're arguing with about the existence of white privilege, but it isn't me.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Lots.
It truly boggles my mind how some people think shit like that is ok and won't have consequences.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Ohio R apologizes for asking racist C-19 question.
That being said, who the hell says "colored" in 2020?
Listen, all the questions are legit and fair. They might be a bit dumb, but they should be asked. Any tech support person will tell you that you have to ask the easy shit to ensure you covered it."I understand African Americans have a higher incidence of chronic conditions and that makes them more susceptible to death from Covid. But why does it not make them more susceptible just to get Covid?" asked Huffman, who is also a practicing physician.
"Could it just be that African Americans or the colored population do not wash their hands as well as other groups? Or wear a mask? Or do not socially distance themselves? Could that be the explanation for why the higher incidence?"
That being said, who the hell says "colored" in 2020?
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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70+ year olds? But this guy appears to only be 55...
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NASCAR driver quits over confederate flag ban.TheCatt wrote: NASCAR bans confederate flags..
(I think he was just retiring and decided to get some headlines.)
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Leisher wrote:NASCAR driver quits over confederate flag ban.TheCatt wrote: NASCAR bans confederate flags..
(I think he was just retiring and decided to get some headlines.)
I've also decided to retire from NASCAR over thisCiccarelli, 50, has participated in 18 Truck Series races over the past four years, though none in 2020.
And golf.It's not me, it's someone else.
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I guess we just see it differently. I saw a guy who said "I had white privilege, and this is how". You saw a guy who said "I had white privilege, and I owe everything I have to it". Similar to your Vitamin D example. To me, a more similar example would be "Vitamin D helps me live". I did not get the impression the guy said he owed everything to WP. But like the vitamin D example, you went on to introduce dinosaurs and meteors, where to me, the guy was just trying to show how Vitamin D helps with life. When you attacked the dude with all these ways he didn't have WP, it made me think you didn't believe in it. You have strongly argued against it this whole time, giving the impression you didn't seem to acknowledge it at all.Leisher wrote: For Cake:
Everything in your last post is complete bullshit from start to finish. You're clearly not reading my posts. It's so devoid of truth that I believe you have to just be trolling me. The fact that you keep accusing me of denying white privilege, alone, is proof of trolling or not reading.
So instead of ripping apart that bullshit above with another wall of text you won't read, let me try to simply give you an analogy.
Let's say that I wrote an article crediting Vitamin D for my existence here on Earth and never mentioned food, water, oxygen, the Earth, my parents screwing, my education, the communities I've lived in, jobs I've had that feed and housed me, natural selection, the meteor that wiped out the dinos, the Earth's distance from the sun, Euros conquering the U.S., every single factor that played even the smallest role in my being here right now, and every other fucking variable that actually keeps me alive.
If I wrote that article, wouldn't it be logical to assume that maybe, just maybe I have a bias, guilt, or agenda in promoting Vitamin D and ignoring every other factor? And if someone did say, "Hey, you can't give all credit to Vitamin D! There's all these other factors involved that you're not giving any credit to and that's disingenuous." would they be denying the existence of Vitamin D? You seem to think so.
So I'm not sure who the fuck you're arguing with about the existence of white privilege, but it isn't me.
I have actually taken the time to re-read most of your posts, and you do seem to acknowledge its existence, but you hate it. Were we disagree most is the amount of influence WP still has today. I think it's still a lot. I believe you think it's not very relevant. If I, and another equally qualified black man applied for the same 50 jobs, I would bet that I would be accepted the majority of the time. Not all white people succeed because they are white. However, I feel like my biggest competition would be other white people. I feel I already have an advantage over POC.
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CNN piece, written by a male cracker, apologetically explains why people need to stop condemning historical figures for their racism.
A bunch of rich white and Asian men observe a moment of silence for George Floyd.
If I was running the PGA, I would have taken a knee for racial injustice not a knee for a guy who beat and robbed a pregnant woman at gunpoint.
If anyone finds that offensive, remember that our society is currently condemning historical figures for the negative things in their life while ignoring the positives. Thus, I think this is on point with that trend.
I had this typed up an hour ago, but got busy. I'll get back to you later Cake.
I'm not sure what golf has to do with anything, but...
A bunch of rich white and Asian men observe a moment of silence for George Floyd.
If I was running the PGA, I would have taken a knee for racial injustice not a knee for a guy who beat and robbed a pregnant woman at gunpoint.
If anyone finds that offensive, remember that our society is currently condemning historical figures for the negative things in their life while ignoring the positives. Thus, I think this is on point with that trend.
I had this typed up an hour ago, but got busy. I'll get back to you later Cake.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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I was pointing out the pointlessness of said person's retirement.
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Because of your white guilt!
I fully acknowledge it, just as I fully acknowledge every possible advantage that people have. Advantages that are natural, yet we're trying to remove via force. And that applies to ALL of the various things I've stated, not just white privilege.
This trend will be as effective as the law passed in a St. Louis suburb years ago that banned outdoor cats from attacking wild birds. (That shit really happened.)
No sir. You're making assumptions. I do not hate it, I hate the political tool it has become. Hating it would be akin to hating the color of one's own skin. Hating it would also be as effective as hating the rotation of the Earth, the tide, physics, and so on. It's scientifically proven to be a natural thing. It's as normal and equal to whatever about a woman turns you on or why people trust brunette men or why people don't trust blonde men and so on. You can tell people not to think these things all you want, but you're wasting your breath. You might as well be fighting the tide with a slotted spoon.
The thing that fires me up about it is how people have painted it as a tool of oppression. They've labeled it as something intentional. They, not you despite my hyperbole earlier, have absolutely taken the air out of people's achievements and given all the credit to their race. And so on.
White people don't need to apologize for being white, and that's how articles like the original one come off. The author's skin matched the color of other people and he equates it some powerful advantage. An advantage that wouldn't exist in most countries in the world. (That's a small fact that a LOT of people seem to forget. Saw a post by someone today who said "Police racism and brutality are a worldwide problem!" Uh...no they're not you dumb fuck. Most countries don't have anywhere near our diversity and no other country has anywhere near our number of deaths by police.)
The sole advantage you have over POC is IF your skin color matches the skin color of the decision maker. And it's an advantage they would have over you if that person's skin color matched theirs.Cakedaddy wrote: Were we disagree most is the amount of influence WP still has today. I think it's still a lot. I believe you think it's not very relevant. If I, and another equally qualified black man applied for the same 50 jobs, I would bet that I would be accepted the majority of the time. Not all white people succeed because they are white. However, I feel like my biggest competition would be other white people. I feel I already have an advantage over POC.
For example, LeBron James has a whole team of people working for him, including an IT guy. Know how many are white? You guessed correctly! And I know someone who worked directly with that IT guy and he said he was exceptionally bad at his job. He had no training, experience, credentials, etc. So why do you think he got the job? While it might have ultimately played a small role, his skin color was clearly a positive to Lebron.
Oh, and I take back my statement about "sole advantage". You also have an advantage when dealing with the police.
Beyond that, your white skin color is a detriment.
I'm really just skirting issues here because this is a truly complex and involved topic. I genuinely feel this is one we should save for your next visit because it's so deep that it should be spoken and not left up to interpretation.
I really don't think this is an argument at all. I think it's just different views from the same side of the same coin.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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And I'll disagree here, because it doesn't account for a lifetime of advantages that came before.
DatingWhite men get more responses. Whatever it is, white males just get more replies from almost every group. We were careful to preselect our data pool so that physical attractiveness (as measured by our site picture-rating utility) was roughly even across all the race/gender slices. For guys, we did likewise with height.
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I would argue that most of the decision makers, from a random sampling, would be white. In all the places you've worked, how many POC were in positions of power compared to the number of white?
Yes, we are being blamed for a lot of stuff. But nothing is really changing to any great degree. We may be losing some advantage, but we (white males) still have one. There is no other race/sex that I would want to be right now.
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Do Asians count? If so, 1. If not, 0. I'm pretty sure of the... 30? all were white until this last company. Which had 1 Asian in the decision-making process, and I was interviewed by 1 other PoC (Hispanic).
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