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Holy crap, prolly shouldn't have voted him in then, huh.
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Right?
The way he got elected is because in this community the average age is over 50, they're a majority white...by a lot..., they're extremely xenophobic, they still think this is a farming community, and they're against all progress. This guy campaigned on that shit and won. If I remember the whole story correctly, what really got him popularity was whistleblowing on the local firefighters and their annual bonus. I forget all the details, but finding waste in governmental spending is a huge deal here. These dumb backwoods fucks don't understand that spending in their community will raise property values. They're only concerned with what's coming out of their pockets right now. They also don't want to make anything up here "nice" so it won't draw in additional people to live here or attract poor people or minorities. I know, you're shocked that old white farming folks could be racist. Although to be fair to them, a lot of it just their xenophobia. They don't like folks not born in their community. Literally, if you're born a town away, they look down upon you. It's insanity.
Thing is, the farming community they dream of is gone. Urban sprawl already gobbled up most of their precious land. If they were truly dead set on keep out "undesirables" they should be putting as much money into their community as possible. Make it too expensive for poor folk to live here.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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1 - White privilege, and literally the foundation of all steps to come.Leisher wrote: -His grandfather makes money pre-POC (and women) having rights. - White privilege
-His mom fucks her way into the family. - Nope, this is pussy privilege.
-Mom gets dumped, but gets enough money to buy a house in a nice suburb. - Nope, this is 100% about money and his mom's intelligence to not waste it.
-Nice suburb has mostly white people and good schools - Based on the era, this is undeniably white privilege.
-He works and studies very hard. - Nope, this is 100% due to his
-He meets people and might have gotten some chances - A mix of luck, skill, talent, personality, political leanings (realistically you can't leave that out of Hollywood jobs), definitely religion, and some other things. Is white privilege in there? Probably, but it's not the key factor.
2 - He wasn't banging no black girls.
3 - Blacks didn't have enough property to do this, again setting the stage for the future.
4 - He does work hard, but back to steps #1 + #3, that's why he was able to be in a good system, safe neighborhood, etc.
5 - Again, goes back to #3 and #1, since that's why he knew these people. And those white people had connections with the other white people who also had benefits like step #1.
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It laid a foundation, but not a permanent one. That money could have been lost at any time. And as it is now, it was then, most people weren't rich. No matter the color of their skin.
Objection: Speculation.
To do what? Which point is this one trying to counter? You have 5 points to my 6.
Nope. Speculation again, and frankly, bullshit. You keep giving him a single reason for being successful, the color of his skin. Who knows if he would have turned out even more successful or a criminal had he grown up in another neighborhood? How about all the rich white kids who grow up to be complete dogshit as human beings because they have so much white privilege? Check out all the celebrity and rich kids who grew up with silver spoons, got every break, and still end up being trash, poor, addicted to drugs, and so on. Do not take away his work ethic and motivation. It's completely unfair, and honestly, racist.
Again, lots of speculation and ignoring all the other points I made. Are white people responsible for any success they're ever had or is it all because of the color of their skin?
Someone might want to let the 9% of white Americans living in poverty know that they have white privilege, and thus, should be rich.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Guess I skipped #4 of yours. Use numbers to enumerate your lists, not "-"s.
I don't, just saying it's an advantage in every step.
I don't, just saying it's an advantage in every step.
So that's 30% of the rate of blacks living in poverty, right? That's a lot of advantages in that chart. 10x what blacks have.
Hasn't changed much.
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Don't push your numbered privilege on me!
It can be, but it also can't. Not sure if maybe it's because I'm Italian, but white people aren't inviting me into exclusive clubs. Either way, it's bullshit to say it's NOT there at all, and equally bullshit to say it's ALWAYS there.
22% according to the chart I saw from the feds.
And the whole point of this country is that advantage doesn't mean shit. That chart also proves more crackers haven't done shit with their life.
Now do the charts featuring athletics and entertainment. Let's see how those numbers break down.
(Side note: I always find the Hispanic inclusions on these charts to be interesting. First, most race debates completely exclude them, which is bullshit. Second, I always wonder if the stats include only legal Hispanics or illegal too. 14 million people is a pretty big number that can be included or excluded to fit whatever narrative you want. Third, I also wonder if "White Hispanic" is included in the White charts in the same way.)
Wealth/poverty levels should be improving and that should have been going on since slavery ended. It should be equal at this point, and racism has clearly been a factor. However, this has nothing to do with my points about the guy's story.
Hard working smart white people have achieved success without white privilege being the key factor to it.
That is the ONLY thing I'm debating here.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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It's always there. Also, Italians are the worst. That being said, I'm 99.4% Northern European, and I'm not in any exclusive clubs either
Rich whites are the worst.I think you saw 22% of blacks are in poverty, and 9% of whites, 9/22 = 41%, not 30%, so my math is a little bad, but close enough for physics. At any rate, black poverty rate >> white poverty rate.
That may be the point/goal, it's not the reality.
It's "white privilege and wealth everywhere." If that dude had been black, his starting point would have been a lot worse.
For individual cases, I might agree. In aggregate, I disagree.
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Racist. Seriously though, let's say that's 100% correct. Then you cannot deny the other million or so other privileges that some people enjoy that also play a factor. Funny how the vast, vast majority of people in Hollywood, no matter their skin color, are good looking...
We're fighting.
Are the Kardashians "white"? If so, nobody with a brain or soul could argue your point.
No argument.
But it has been for some. You cannot exclude them or throw away their achievements.
Had his mom not gotten just enough money, known how to give him a good life, and/or not been hard working himself, he would have had a lot worse starting point. You cannot discount those facts! Also, you cannot say a black person would have had a worse starting point in this guy's story. Most? Yes, however not all.
Stop making this so black and white...
It's all I'm saying.
Congratulate people on their work, don't take away their success by claiming some invisible force did it and not them.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Without makeup, they appear to be?
How many blacks do you think my dad was competing against for med school admission? My dad's a smart guy, etc, etc, but there was still a thumb on the scales. Medical school enrollment by black was about 250 in 1968, and was over 1,000 by 1974. Data doesn't go back to when my dad started med school, but based on that trajectory, I'm guessing it was pretty low.
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You say that, but I'm not sure they're human.
Again, this goes to further what I said about this shit not balancing out overnight.TheCatt wrote: How many blacks do you think my dad was competing against for med school admission? My dad's a smart guy, etc, etc, but there was still a thumb on the scales. Medical school enrollment by black was about 250 in 1968, and was over 1,000 by 1974. Data doesn't go back to when my dad started med school, but based on that trajectory, I'm guessing it was pretty low.
But you do understand you have to factor in a LOT more than just "white privilege", right? How many black people even wanted to go to med school? One of the biggest complaints from black leaders, and even just black parents, is the message within black culture that school/education is for chumps. This has been discussed for years and even mocked by people like Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle. Not to mention the glorifying of violence, drug culture, or focusing on music/sports instead of studies. These aren't my complaints, this is the actual platform of black leaders and parents trying to get the negative shit out of their neighborhoods. Hell, you saw these themes in the movies Friday, Boyz in the Hood, etc.
That's not whitey's fault, but it absolutely would further white privilege because of the image it projects about black people and because there would be fewer black people in these institutions. So is it still white privilege when black people help create it?
Oh, and maybe if your dad worked harder and was smarter he wouldn't need white privilege to get into med school!
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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For decades black people couldn't get an education, when they could it was shitty, and then, when they could get better educations, white people wouldn't hire them anyway. So maybe they got disenchanted along the way.
The attitude does need to change, but I bet if they had equal educational resources, it might help move the needle.
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Funding and opportunities should be equal, but yeah that culture needs to change or it won't do shit.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Now, I feel like Leisher's main argument is that the kid was successful because his mom know how to get her pussy to work for her. She landed a rich guy, and used his money wisely. Her son was then successful. Color had nothing to do with it. It was the pussy!
And we aren't giving him a single reason for his success. Skin color. We are saying it gave him an advantage. White people did not have to work as hard as black people to be successful, because they had an advantage. It was more true in the past, but it IS still true today.
And we aren't giving him a single reason for his success. Skin color. We are saying it gave him an advantage. White people did not have to work as hard as black people to be successful, because they had an advantage. It was more true in the past, but it IS still true today.
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I was wondering when these types of requests would start popping up. Clemson asked to sever ties + naming with slave-owner whose plantation became the university.
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We should probably close Duke University, to be safe.
Julian Carr also played an essential role in bolstering white supremacy in North Carolina during the era of Jim Crow. He publicly endorsed the Ku Klux Klan, argued that African Americans should not be allowed to vote, and promoted racial unrest and turmoil in the late 19th century to defeat an interracial "Fusion" political party. Carr promoted his racial views through the News & Observer newspaper, which he bought, setting up white supremacist Josephus Daniels as its Editor.[11] He celebrated the Wilmington Massacre of 1898, in which an elected government was overthrown by force (the only such incident in American history), and where at least 60 black North Carolinians were murdered. In numerous speeches, he suggested that African Americans were better off enslaved and celebrated violence, even lynching, against black citizens.[1]
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Carr was also instrumental in the founding of Duke University (where the history building on East Campus was named after him from 1930 to 2018). As Trinity College struggled to overcome postwar dependency on uncertain student tuition and church donations, interested Methodist laymen were crucial to its survival. Carr's name first appears in college records signing a note to forestall foreclosure on a mortgage due in 1880. Carr was elected a trustee of Trinity College in 1883, and over the course of the decade acted as benefactor and administrator of the struggling institution that was eventually renamed Duke University. He engineered the selection of John F. Crowell as the institution's new president, and along with Washington Duke won support to remove the school from its rural setting in Randolph County, North Carolina to Durham. The move was made possible by Carr's gift of 62 acres (250,000 m2) of land for the site.
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Carr gave a speech wherein he credited the Confederate soldiers of having "saved the very life of the Anglo Saxon race in the South," and as a consequence, "the purest strain of the Anglo Saxon is to be found in the 13 Southern States," after which he ended his speech by relating a personal anecdote when he was 19 years old of having soon after the war "horse-whipped a negro wench until her skirts hung in shreds" in Chapel Hill for having "publicly insulted and maligned a Southern lady," and having performed this "pleasing duty" in front of a garrison of 100 Federal soldiers after she sought protection at the university.
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Oh, Duke...
It is known that Duke owned one enslaved person, named Caroline, whom he purchased for $601, and had hired out the labor of an enslaved person from his neighbors to work on his farm
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You make jokes, but nothing on this planet has more power than pussy. If women could get along for 5 minutes they could easily take over the world without a single shot fired.
Not joking.
But you are because I've constantly brought up other scientifically proven advantages people have and you've completely ignored them. You just focus on the color of his skin.
You know who has to work harder to be successful? People born uglier, poorer, shorter, dumber, fatter, blonde (especially men), and so on. It was as true in the past as it is NOW. But hey, let's focus on the color of his skin being the same as the people who conquered the land and make up the majority of the population. Because bigotry makes it so easy to blame others for our own failures!
Put the fucker in a museum and let's move on with our lives. FFS that has no business being at a government building in 2020.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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I guess it has been hard on you. You have my sympathies.
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