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Today in racism

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:29 am
by Leisher
TheCatt wrote: There was video of a protester being pinned down by a cop, with the cop's knee on his neck. Another cop moved the knee to the protester's back.
See? They're learning!
TheCatt wrote: That certainly needs to stop.
All of it does. The violence on both sides is only making things worse.

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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:31 am
by GORDON
Violence is being normalized. Vigilante justice got mainstream (MSM) support when Antifa made it a holy duty to assault innocent people in the guise of "punch nazis." I am proud to say I was predicting the outcome back when it was actually happening. When the mob comes for me someday, I will burn very self-satisfied that I was morally the better person.

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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:34 am
by TheCatt
Birmingham removes confederate monument, faces a fine from the state of Alabama.
Birmingham Mayor Randall Woodfin said the city faces a fine for violating a state law that bans the removal of Confederate and other long-standing monuments. Woodfin said the cost of a fine would be more affordable than the cost of continued unrest in the city.
I'm pro removal of all confederate monuments, aside from those at battle fields or museums.

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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:44 am
by GORDON
GORDON wrote: Violence is being normalized. Vigilante justice got mainstream (MSM) support when Antifa made it a holy duty to assault innocent people in the guise of "punch nazis." I am proud to say I was predicting the outcome back when it was actually happening. When the mob comes for me someday, I will burn very self-satisfied that I was morally the better person.
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:45 am
by GORDON
Granted... if any of them punched someone, they'd probably break both a thumb and a wrist. That could be someone mocking antifa.

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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:21 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote: Granted... if any of them punched someone, they'd probably break both a thumb and a wrist.
That was my first thought.

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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:22 pm
by Leisher
That tweet has to be a joke.

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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:22 pm
by TheCatt

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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:23 pm
by Leisher
Old, but funny.

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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:25 pm
by GORDON
I've been seeing so much sincere Antifa stuff on reddit for the last couple days, my initial response was that it was legit. But then I actually looked at the people.... and yeah.

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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:22 pm
by Leisher
Leisher wrote: Police officers throughout the nation are being shot, hit with items, run over by cars, and so on.
Came here for this link to show someone else, and wow did CNN completely alter that piece. Now the violence against the cops is buried at the bottom. CNN is clearly pandering to its base. Not a single story about the cops killed or attacked anywhere on their front page at the moment.

Here's the list (maybe Malcolm can secretly return and masturbate to it):
In the last 96 hours...
-A Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Officer was shot in the back of the head while struggling with a rioter
-An active shooter opened fire on law enforcement at a Las Vegas courthouse
-4 St. Louis Police Officers were shot by an active shooter
-A New York Police Officer was struck by a vehicle
-3 Buffalo law enforcement officers were struck by a vehicle in front of the police station
-3 Davenport law enforcement officers were ambushed and 1 was shot
-132 officers were injured in Chicago during a riot
-9 Pittsburg officers were injured by objects during a riot
-Several officers in Rhode Island were injured during riots
-An active shooter opened fire at the Oakland Police Department
-2 officers were struck in the head with projectiles in Santa Ana
-2 Richland officers were shot in Virginia
-1 officer was struck in the head by a brick in Albany
-4 Prince William County Police Officers sustained head injuries from projectiles
-7 officers were injured in Sacramento
-Several officers were shot at and injured in Lynchburg
-Several Champaign Police Officers were injured
-3 Oak Law Police Officers were injured
-21 officers were injured in Salt Lake City
-At least 50 Secret Service Agents were injured by Molotov cocktails in Washington
-3 Denver Police Officers were ran over by a vehicle
-33 New York Police Officers were injured during riots
-6 Athens Police Officers injured during a protest
-2 Capitol Police Officers were injured during a riot in Harrisburg
-12 Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Officers were injured during riots
-21 Minneapolis law enforcement officers injured in riots
-1 Federal Protective Services Officer was shot and killed.

Today in racism

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:28 pm
by Leisher
There's a BLM protest at the main intersection of my sleepy little suburb tonight at 6 p.m.

Driving into town this morning I was behind someone from Iowa. I've never seen Iowa plates here before. They weren't just passing through either. They weren't coming from where the expressway would have brought them and they pulled into the Kroger.

Also, the closed store front next to Barry Bagels had the door propped open, although the blinds were all still drawn, and there was an unfamiliar car parked there. Odds are this isn't a new business that just happens to be opening today, still mid-COVID, so I'm betting it's where the protest is being organized.

No cops anywhere. In fact, I'm guessing if cops are needed they'll be county, state, and from the neighboring metropolis in the state just south.

I'll be golfing otherwise I would definitely go. First, to support the protest. Second, because I'm seeing a lot of shit being posted to a local FB page that I'm not digging. Screenshots from the pages of people planning the protest with instructions on making googles for protection against tear gas, how to armor up to protect from batons, and so on. Hopefully, that's just garbage being given to all protests.

It'll be real interesting if things get violent. The town's average age is over 50 and I think there's maybe 2-3 black families. It's a xenophobic farming community and the majority of the aging population have trouble accepting their new status as a suburb. They're also very armed.

Related?
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Clemson assistant coach called a player the n word.

Denver Broncos head coach tries to get himself into trouble.

CNN really wants you to think the only people responsible for the violence are white supremacists.

Why is CNN spending so much effort lately pretending cops aren't dying, stores are getting looted, owners defending them being beaten, and Antifa is some sort of peaceful group?

Kings play by play announcer say "all lives matter...every single one", gets branded a racist, and loses both of his jobs.

The myth of systemic police racism - WSJ

That's behind their pay wall, can someone copy and paste in the private area? I'd like to read it. I want to see how they make their case.

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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:40 pm
by GORDON
I've been tempted to post a time or two, "Both I and my son are white and male. Where can I purchase self-flagellation whips, so we can show support for POC?"

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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:45 pm
by Leisher
GORDON wrote: I've been tempted to post a time or two, "Both I and my son are white and male. Where can I purchase self-flagellation whips, so we can show support for POC?"
Racist.

You're clearly taking away an opportunity for a POC to come flog you.

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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:57 pm
by Leisher
Holy shit. This protest has brought out the crazies and the racists on that FB page. WOW.

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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:04 pm
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: Clemson assistant coach called a player the n word.
If you read the article, he did not.

It FEELS like what happened was:

BlackPlayer1: C'mon, nigga, get your shit together
BlackPlayer2: Fuck you, buddy.
Coach: Hey, Player1, how you feel if someone called you a nigga?
Leisher wrote: Kings play by play announcer say "all lives matter...every single one", gets branded a racist, and loses both of his jobs.
Ah, racism... no trial, just guilty.

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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:44 pm
by Leisher
TheCatt wrote: If you read the article, he did not.
Got my info from the players on the Twitters.

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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:56 pm
by TheCatt

Today in racism

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:27 am
by TheCatt
TheCatt wrote: Birmingham removes confederate monument, faces a fine from the state of Alabama.
Birmingham Mayor Randall Woodfin said the city faces a fine for violating a state law that bans the removal of Confederate and other long-standing monuments. Woodfin said the cost of a fine would be more affordable than the cost of continued unrest in the city.
I'm pro removal of all confederate monuments, aside from those at battle fields or museums.
Follow-up on the mayor's threat (and eventual removal) to remove the statue
And then there were the death threats. The Root has obtained audio files of phone calls from the city’s 911 emergency system made by mourners to the lost cause of the Confederate States of America’s white supremacist utopia. The calls giving Woodfin a piece of their racist minds include such hits as:

“If you take down that statue in Linn Park, that Confederate statue, I’m gonna come down there with an AK-47 and start blowing the pigs away. And the protesters. You hear me?”
“I’m gonna assassinate nigger Randall Woodfield [sic] and kill that dead nigger. You better call that shit off right now.”
You think I’m playing? It’ll be all over the news, punk ass. I’m coming down there right now (unintelligible) to blow your fucking head off, asshole
Fuck off asshole. I’ll hang you from a tree, nigger.
Everyone waited.
https://www.theroot.com/damn-that-statue-birmingham-proves-protests-work-by-1843889973

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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:38 am
by Leisher
TheCatt wrote: Worth a read.
White guilt at its finest. Listen, his heart is truly in the right place, and while I'm certain being white did open some doors for him, he overlooks the most important part of his story: Money. He didn't succeed because of white privilege, he succeeded because his family had money. His story is about how many obstacles money eliminated from his life, not how many his skin color eliminated. Without money, he wouldn't have been able to move to a nice suburb and attend a good school. So, where would he be now without those advantages?

Sure, the overall story starts off by pointing out how few opportunities there were for black people in the early 1900s, but we were still coming out of a period where half the country thought of them as property, not people. (And technically, it wasn't even half the country. If you go back and look, most people didn't own slaves, only rich land owners did. I guess they had white privilege before it was even a thing.) Women were also oppressed at the time. Equality was never a big thing at any point in human history up to then, but it was becoming important. However, it's not like people just declared, "let's be equal" and overnight everyone lived in the same neighborhoods. As his own article points out:
She sold that house, and used the proceeds to buy a much smaller house in Glen Ellyn, IL, a wealthy, nearly all-white (at the time) suburb of Chicago.
Emphasis mine. Clearly the racist overlords were asleep at the wheel if black people somehow got into that neighborhood!!! Or maybe this is proving my point about how equality was becoming a bigger thing and more opportunities were opening up for POC. I'm guessing these were hard working folks who busted their ass to get there rather than sitting around whining about how they deserve to be handed things (something people of all races do and have done forever).

This isn't saying white privilege doesn't exist because being white comes with certain expectations and naturally makes you more appealing to other people that look like you. (Something that is true of all races.) However, it didn't help him in his life as much as he thinks it did. Green money was the key to his success, not white skin.

The gentleman in the video below grew up in the same country as the veggie guy in the article and had a very different path to success, but he achieved that success. Watch the video, not only does he hit on an interesting tidbit about "poverty being in our DNA" that I want to find out more about, but he directly addresses Don Lemon giving him the typical "woe is me" excuses people use for why they haven't made it.

https://youtu.be/StNCmOBDIag

Onto other things racism...

This isn't just a great slam, it's something black people should be asking the Democratic Party: Post note on the protest in my burb. I missed most of it as I had golf league, but it was peaceful. I caught the tail end. Cops were there, but just in their cars helping the protesters march without getting run over. I didn't see many black people, which is actually fine. Not too many in the community, so it really was a nice message of support. I'd guess the number of protesters that I saw to be about 100. I also didn't see any mysterious pallets of bricks anywhere. (Anyone get that joke?)

Being a guy, skin color has NOTHING to do with this, I always wonder how many guys show up at protests not really giving a shit about the issue, but just hoping to get laid.
TheCatt wrote: Follow-up on the mayor's threat (and eventual removal) to remove the statue
I won't even comment on the other quoted stuff. Stupidity like that isn't worth the typing.

I'm still very torn on the removal of statues and such. I think I'm fine with removing stuff with the stipulation that they be placed into a museum. We should never forget our past. Where my problem lies is people trying to apply today's social values to people who lived hundreds of years ago. It's complete bullshit.