I was fine on farm and was leveling fine. Had adequate items and stuff. I was more concerned with how far out we were pushing the minions, and then engaging the enemy than anything else.
Ya, we had bad flip action, but I think that will come with experience. You'll get better at detecting my swap building up just like I've learned your flip tells.
It looks like the Internet is filtering Leishers walls of text now. It's decided they are too big and bogging things down.
League of Legends - Trumped up Rock, Paper, Scissors
I had planned to, but I'm sitting at work still. It'll depend on how I feel when I get home.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
I didn't like our three tank team. Way too much defense, and no offense. Every time I got into a skirmish, the other team ignored the tanks and were focusing me. Once I died, nobody else could hit for shit.
I didn't notice, but I assume they were doing the same thing to Cake.
I think if our random 5th goes tank, we need to alter things up a bit. Maybe Gordo goes GP and lanes with Stranger as Nautilus?
Oh, and Stranger, I have seen an AP Trynd. Not kidding.
I didn't notice, but I assume they were doing the same thing to Cake.
I think if our random 5th goes tank, we need to alter things up a bit. Maybe Gordo goes GP and lanes with Stranger as Nautilus?
Oh, and Stranger, I have seen an AP Trynd. Not kidding.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board....+kennen
An AP Trynd isn't even viable.. but an AD Kennen is.
I never said AD Kennen is the best choice but I have certainly seen high elo players do it.. NO AP TRYNDS THO!
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An AP Trynd isn't even viable.. but an AD Kennen is.
I never said AD Kennen is the best choice but I have certainly seen high elo players do it.. NO AP TRYNDS THO!
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WORLD CHAMPIONS!!
Can Stranger not see the League of the Eve of UO Galaxies - Private Legends Diplomacy forum?
Google "kennen ad or ap" and you'll find a lot more threads saying it's absolutely ignorant with stats explaining why rather than opinions. However, that being said...
ANYTHING can work. Cake's point is that all it takes is one good game with a ridiculous build, and that player or others who see it will begin to copy it. The problem with that is they'll fail 80-90% of the time, and blame other things, not their inefficient build.
We never said he wasn't viable. What we're saying is that it's inefficient. It doesn't make sense to use a character that is designed for AP, and designed to use those AP skills in team fights, and turn him into an AD champ for auto-attacking.
Never doubted you on that.
However, it's very important to note the thing that people arguing for AD Kennen are glossing over, the AD Kennen they saw at high elo was designed for a specific purpose in a team that communicated very well and had a plan going into the games. He was used to keep lanes clear of minions, and to stun multiple enemies quickly. He wasn't a solo champ and wasn't going to beat anyone's ass, but they build AD for the AS so they could stun quickly.
Also, note that one of the folks says if you're under 2400 elo, you shouldn't be doing this build. They also state if your team isn't all on the same page, you shouldn't be doing this build.
So again, the crux of our argument isn't that it can't be done, but that it shouldn't be done unless there's a specific reason for it, and everyone is on the same page.
Google "kennen ad or ap" and you'll find a lot more threads saying it's absolutely ignorant with stats explaining why rather than opinions. However, that being said...
An AP Trynd isn't even viable..
ANYTHING can work. Cake's point is that all it takes is one good game with a ridiculous build, and that player or others who see it will begin to copy it. The problem with that is they'll fail 80-90% of the time, and blame other things, not their inefficient build.
but an AD Kennen is.
We never said he wasn't viable. What we're saying is that it's inefficient. It doesn't make sense to use a character that is designed for AP, and designed to use those AP skills in team fights, and turn him into an AD champ for auto-attacking.
I never said AD Kennen is the best choice but I have certainly seen high elo players do it.
Never doubted you on that.
However, it's very important to note the thing that people arguing for AD Kennen are glossing over, the AD Kennen they saw at high elo was designed for a specific purpose in a team that communicated very well and had a plan going into the games. He was used to keep lanes clear of minions, and to stun multiple enemies quickly. He wasn't a solo champ and wasn't going to beat anyone's ass, but they build AD for the AS so they could stun quickly.
Also, note that one of the folks says if you're under 2400 elo, you shouldn't be doing this build. They also state if your team isn't all on the same page, you shouldn't be doing this build.
So again, the crux of our argument isn't that it can't be done, but that it shouldn't be done unless there's a specific reason for it, and everyone is on the same page.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Hey Stranger, remember when we were fucking with you last night? We were just fucking with you. Fucking with you just means we know you can take it.
I will vouch for Stranger's ability to get razed. I think he was just grumpy last night.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
LOLI played two Kennen games today.
The first was AP Kennen with no AP, not even as much as I give Teemo.
The second was AD Kennen with 2.5 AS.
I need to do another with AS AP Kennen so I can properly decide what's what.
Still, my first impression is that he's Teemo. AD Teemo is viable as well, but you're flushing all that poison from your darts and mushrooms down the toilet.
The first was AP Kennen with no AP, not even as much as I give Teemo.
The second was AD Kennen with 2.5 AS.
I need to do another with AS AP Kennen so I can properly decide what's what.
Still, my first impression is that he's Teemo. AD Teemo is viable as well, but you're flushing all that poison from your darts and mushrooms down the toilet.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Yes. AP with no AS.
Also, I realize it's Wednesday, but I think I'll be on after golf. The wife has to go to her mom's to help with a video we're working on for a friend's wake. Thus, I'm heading home to watch the kids instead of heading for the bar.
This is NOT guaranteed, but it is likely.
Also, I realize it's Wednesday, but I think I'll be on after golf. The wife has to go to her mom's to help with a video we're working on for a friend's wake. Thus, I'm heading home to watch the kids instead of heading for the bar.
This is NOT guaranteed, but it is likely.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell